Emirates' CEO Clark takes off the gloves against "the troika"
May 12, 2015, 2:20 pm
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Emirates' CEO Clark takes off the gloves against "the troika"
Interesting article with Clark vowing to continue expansion deeper into the US including more fifth freedom. Miami, Denver, Ft Lauderdale mentioned.
http://www.thenational.ae/business/a...open-skies-row
Some choice volleys...
"Expand further from European hubs into the US? Yes, we might do that,” Mr Clark said. “The kind of abuse we’ve been getting might cause us to do it. And after Milan, we can see how profitable it is. If the Danes or the Swedes were to come to us and say ‘we haven’t got enough flights to the US, would you consider it?’ Yes we might do that.”
"We might say to Richard Anderson that we’re just going to do what the US government wanted back in 1999, to go transatlantic and transpacific with fifth freedom open skies.”
“Places like Denver and Fort Lauderdale would love to have Emirates flying there, because when you come into those kinds of airports you bring half of the Middle East and Africa with you. There are multiple entities in the US who are sick and tired of the troika."
http://www.thenational.ae/business/a...open-skies-row
Some choice volleys...
"Expand further from European hubs into the US? Yes, we might do that,” Mr Clark said. “The kind of abuse we’ve been getting might cause us to do it. And after Milan, we can see how profitable it is. If the Danes or the Swedes were to come to us and say ‘we haven’t got enough flights to the US, would you consider it?’ Yes we might do that.”
"We might say to Richard Anderson that we’re just going to do what the US government wanted back in 1999, to go transatlantic and transpacific with fifth freedom open skies.”
“Places like Denver and Fort Lauderdale would love to have Emirates flying there, because when you come into those kinds of airports you bring half of the Middle East and Africa with you. There are multiple entities in the US who are sick and tired of the troika."
May 12, 2015, 2:32 pm
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Saying “The kind of abuse we’ve been getting might cause us to do it." makes it sound like he's doing it to be snooty, not because they have a solid business reason. Of course his other statements build a business case for the routing, but still, is he making decisions based on ego or actual need?
May 12, 2015, 5:03 pm
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RA? Absolutely. There are some people on this board that will defend anything Delta does, even if they publicly announced they are taking over every other US airline and raising fares to a starting price of $1000.
May 12, 2015, 5:13 pm
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Also - the people you speak of don't exist.
May 12, 2015, 5:20 pm
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Sounds like you need an eye check. I love Delta but if you don't think there are Delta bots in this forum that defend everything they do, you need to look in the mirror.
May 12, 2015, 5:25 pm
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I'm a big fan of Delta and of Richard Anderson, but if they raised the prices too much or really devalued DM or PM, I'd leave for greener pastures (or just stop traveling by air).
I'm taking a mental health day tomorrow, DCA-JFK-PBI-ATL-DCA. $283.00 all in, and have been UG'ed on three of the four segments. I'm going to enjoy DM as much as possible until 1/31/16. We'll see what happens after that.
I'm taking a mental health day tomorrow, DCA-JFK-PBI-ATL-DCA. $283.00 all in, and have been UG'ed on three of the four segments. I'm going to enjoy DM as much as possible until 1/31/16. We'll see what happens after that.
May 13, 2015, 8:26 am
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I'm a big fan of Delta and of Richard Anderson, but if they raised the prices too much or really devalued DM or PM, I'd leave for greener pastures (or just stop traveling by air).
I'm taking a mental health day tomorrow, DCA-JFK-PBI-ATL-DCA. $283.00 all in, and have been UG'ed on three of the four segments. I'm going to enjoy DM as much as possible until 1/31/16. We'll see what happens after that.
I'm taking a mental health day tomorrow, DCA-JFK-PBI-ATL-DCA. $283.00 all in, and have been UG'ed on three of the four segments. I'm going to enjoy DM as much as possible until 1/31/16. We'll see what happens after that.
Love the mental health day, I enjoy those myself by just flying around with nothing to do. Very enjoyable way to spend the day.
May 13, 2015, 9:01 am
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Hmm, are RA & TC:
a) actually poking each other because they can to defend their turf
b) making noise as part of doing something else, e.g. AC financing, Gov. subsidies, etc...
c) creating entertainment for the rest of the industry and followers
d) prelude to something else that gets two of them together perhaps at a future AirBi customer event for a sit down
e) using the press/media for PR as well as neogotiating tool?
f) all of the above
Now if TC shows up in the background as an extra during one of DL's future saftey video's then you will know him and RA are up to something
Fwiw I'll go with #f above...
a) actually poking each other because they can to defend their turf
b) making noise as part of doing something else, e.g. AC financing, Gov. subsidies, etc...
c) creating entertainment for the rest of the industry and followers
d) prelude to something else that gets two of them together perhaps at a future AirBi customer event for a sit down
e) using the press/media for PR as well as neogotiating tool?
f) all of the above
Now if TC shows up in the background as an extra during one of DL's future saftey video's then you will know him and RA are up to something
Fwiw I'll go with #f above...
May 13, 2015, 9:12 am
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DL, et al.
Interesting article with Clark vowing to continue expansion deeper into the US including more fifth freedom. Miami, Denver, Ft Lauderdale mentioned.
http://www.thenational.ae/business/a...open-skies-row
Some choice volleys...
"Expand further from European hubs into the US? Yes, we might do that,” Mr Clark said. “The kind of abuse we’ve been getting might cause us to do it. And after Milan, we can see how profitable it is. If the Danes or the Swedes were to come to us and say ‘we haven’t got enough flights to the US, would you consider it?’ Yes we might do that.”
"We might say to Richard Anderson that we’re just going to do what the US government wanted back in 1999, to go transatlantic and transpacific with fifth freedom open skies.”
“Places like Denver and Fort Lauderdale would love to have Emirates flying there, because when you come into those kinds of airports you bring half of the Middle East and Africa with you. There are multiple entities in the US who are sick and tired of the troika."
http://www.thenational.ae/business/a...open-skies-row
Some choice volleys...
"Expand further from European hubs into the US? Yes, we might do that,” Mr Clark said. “The kind of abuse we’ve been getting might cause us to do it. And after Milan, we can see how profitable it is. If the Danes or the Swedes were to come to us and say ‘we haven’t got enough flights to the US, would you consider it?’ Yes we might do that.”
"We might say to Richard Anderson that we’re just going to do what the US government wanted back in 1999, to go transatlantic and transpacific with fifth freedom open skies.”
“Places like Denver and Fort Lauderdale would love to have Emirates flying there, because when you come into those kinds of airports you bring half of the Middle East and Africa with you. There are multiple entities in the US who are sick and tired of the troika."
Just look at another example: DL and KE in Asia. A few months ago I did both DL and KE to and from Asia on 74s. The DL 74 was old and, well, needed to be refreshed. The KE 74 was squeaky clean with a spotless bathrooms. The DL staff were like the old Burger King ad--anti-Micky D--where they show someone doing a special order and things move to slow motion. When the KE 74 leveled off, the staff ran to the drink carts and immediately served us.
The legacy carriers need to do better if they want to make money against Asian airlines and the Gulfies.
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May 13, 2015, 9:28 am
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I'd be fine with some actual competition... maybe knock some of the arrogance out of the big US carriers, in particular DL who has shown the 'my way or the highway' attitude for a while.
May 13, 2015, 9:34 am
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Me? I'll take good, attentive, friendly service and an experienced crew - be they older or otherwise, over something as superficial as "young" crew. Not too mention I question the legality with US labour laws of what you advocate.
May 13, 2015, 9:54 am
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All well and good but the problem with that is that far too many AA-UA-DL FAs are jaded, disinterested, and simply going thru the motions logging hours on plum seniority-selected routes. The only solution given the state of US law and unions is to vote with your wallet. Sorry, but unless it's a great deal or a mileage run, I don't fly any US airline when my option is a ME3 or Asian airline.
May 13, 2015, 10:08 am
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All well and good but the problem with that is that far too many AA-UA-DL FAs are jaded, disinterested, and simply going thru the motions logging hours on plum seniority-selected routes. The only solution given the state of US law and unions is to vote with your wallet. Sorry, but unless it's a great deal or a mileage run, I don't fly any US airline when my option is a ME3 or Asian airline.