Delta and Tax Break at ATL ? Is it a Subsidy ?
Mar 17, 2015, 4:38 pm
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So he wants to keep his ATL monopoly going and he thinks gas tax increases are okay so long as he doesn't have to pay them. Cry me a river.
Mar 17, 2015, 10:41 pm
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The fuel tax money can only be used for aviation purposes according to recent FAA rulings. It can't go into the general fund or used for other purposes. While Georgia is contesting the decision, it doesn't seem likely they will win. So the "subsidy" will actually be going to small general aviation airports in GA that contribute little in fuel taxes. Unfortunately, they pretty much dance around that fact in the article. Note the following statement in the article which pretty much admits the fact the taxes will go to other airports --
“Companies are looking for an airport that has a 5,000-foot runway or has taxiways or a radio control tower, all sorts of assets that these smaller communities can’t afford to do,” said Republican Rep. Jay Powell, a Camilla Republican who chairs the influential Ways and Means committee considering the bill. “Just like the internet has made rural Georgia accessible to companies, this also will make rural Georgia accessible to companies.”
How many companies do you really think actually need a small nearby general aviation airport as requirement or inducement. Comparing them to the internet is just plain silly.
“Companies are looking for an airport that has a 5,000-foot runway or has taxiways or a radio control tower, all sorts of assets that these smaller communities can’t afford to do,” said Republican Rep. Jay Powell, a Camilla Republican who chairs the influential Ways and Means committee considering the bill. “Just like the internet has made rural Georgia accessible to companies, this also will make rural Georgia accessible to companies.”
How many companies do you really think actually need a small nearby general aviation airport as requirement or inducement. Comparing them to the internet is just plain silly.
Last edited by xliioper; Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 pm
Mar 18, 2015, 5:28 am
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He is from Texas. The are not "from the South"... They are Texans. Thats like saying everyone from Denver are a bunch of hipster dope smokers. Wait, that was a bad example.
Mar 18, 2015, 5:34 am
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For what it is worth, the criminal enterprise that runs Atlanta airport will not let Delta leave over something as simple as this...
Mar 26, 2015, 9:11 pm
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Mar 27, 2015, 7:18 am
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Saint Dicky is a world class hypocrite. When NW sequestered passengers on the tarmac in DTW for 9 hours, guess who was COO of that company?
http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/story?id=118577
Fast forward a few years when the Passenger Bill of Rights (the 3-hour tarmac rule) was under consideration, Dicky used DL's in-flight magazine to rail against it.
http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/story?id=118577
Fast forward a few years when the Passenger Bill of Rights (the 3-hour tarmac rule) was under consideration, Dicky used DL's in-flight magazine to rail against it.
Apr 23, 2015, 9:54 am
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Longtime Atlanta business journalist Maria Saporta writes that the removal of a tax exemption for jet fuel was motivated more by political revenge against Richard Anderson (and Delta) than by money:
Saporta Report: Delta Air Lines treated so badly by 2015 state legislature we all should worry
April 12, 2015
An excerpt:
Saporta Report: Delta Air Lines treated so badly by 2015 state legislature we all should worry
April 12, 2015
An excerpt:
Delta Air Lines is a Fortune 100 company that is the top private employer in Georgia providing jobs for 33,000 people statewide.
When it was coming out of bankruptcy in 2007, Delta had a choice keep its headquarters in Atlanta or move to Minneapolis. Richard Anderson, first a director and then CEO, and the board decided to keep the airline based in Atlanta.
Now Im wondering if hes second-guessing that decision.
No one company and no one executive was treated more disrespectfully during the 2015 legislative session than Delta and Anderson.
His crime?
He had the audacity to speak his mind about what he thought was in the best interest of Georgias economic future.
When it was coming out of bankruptcy in 2007, Delta had a choice keep its headquarters in Atlanta or move to Minneapolis. Richard Anderson, first a director and then CEO, and the board decided to keep the airline based in Atlanta.
Now Im wondering if hes second-guessing that decision.
No one company and no one executive was treated more disrespectfully during the 2015 legislative session than Delta and Anderson.
His crime?
He had the audacity to speak his mind about what he thought was in the best interest of Georgias economic future.
Apr 23, 2015, 7:19 pm
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That credit covers the taxes. You're not just issued a credit for the fare minus taxes.
Apr 23, 2015, 7:26 pm
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This issue is complicated by the fact that FAA recently ruled that state aviation taxes can only be used for aviation purposes. Most of this money is just going to go to small general aviation airports. Why should commercial flyers who will never step foot on these airports subsidize rich doc's and their Cessna's?
1)It keeps traffic away from the major airport. By law ATC and airports can not treat general aviation any differently then commercial. This is done on purpose, because despite the what seems easy to discern difference between the two, the legal difference is quite different. Imagine the wait times at some of the biggest airports if they had to add even 100 flights a day, and with no schedule.
2)There is a major economic benefit to areas with airports. Companies are willing to build major factories, warehouses, etc when executives can reach the area by plane. Areas outside the reach of a regional airport fair much worse economically then those within reach of even a small regional airport.
Finally the FAA is mandated to ensure there is an over-all network of airports throughout the country to ensure that for the economic, security, government, etc well-being
Apr 23, 2015, 7:28 pm
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You do understand that a tax break
that applies to everyone
isn't a subsidy right?
Now interest free loans with no repay date or just plain cash injections like the ME3 get, that is a subsidy.
Not a subsidy and I don't believe Delta has ever said they don't have tax breaks.
but hey, why not just jump in here because its Delta anyways. It flyertalk after.
If you mean the State of Georgia its not about having balls, its about not being stupid.
that applies to everyone
isn't a subsidy right?
Now interest free loans with no repay date or just plain cash injections like the ME3 get, that is a subsidy.
Not a subsidy and I don't believe Delta has ever said they don't have tax breaks.
but hey, why not just jump in here because its Delta anyways. It flyertalk after.
If you mean the State of Georgia its not about having balls, its about not being stupid.