Thank You DL Capacity/Revenue Management
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Thank You DL Capacity/Revenue Management
Went looking for tickets DTW-PVD over Christmas, and found the following aircraft scheduled on the route:
1xCR9
2xCRJ
By contrast, when I flew to PVD over Labor Day the schedule was:
2xCR9
1x319
1xM88
Let's see, that's a reduction in available seats from 427 to 176, almost 60%. And subbing in the worst jet (well, not quite true - the Comet 1 was worse) in the history of aviation adds insult. Look, I get that DL doesn't want to be in the position of having to give away seats to kettles at $200 rt to fill the planes, can probably get some maintenance done if they take some mainline planes out of service, and can give more of their mainline crews time off over the holidays. I also get that DL's sole responsibility is to get us to and from PVD, preferably in one piece, the CoC saying nothing about relative comfort or a functioning tray table. Still, why does DL feel compelled to put that POS Barbiejet on flights to a metro area with 1.6 million people?
By the way, we will be on one of the CRJs, because the CR9 return flight leaves at 0700, which would require getting up at 0330 or so .
1xCR9
2xCRJ
By contrast, when I flew to PVD over Labor Day the schedule was:
2xCR9
1x319
1xM88
Let's see, that's a reduction in available seats from 427 to 176, almost 60%. And subbing in the worst jet (well, not quite true - the Comet 1 was worse) in the history of aviation adds insult. Look, I get that DL doesn't want to be in the position of having to give away seats to kettles at $200 rt to fill the planes, can probably get some maintenance done if they take some mainline planes out of service, and can give more of their mainline crews time off over the holidays. I also get that DL's sole responsibility is to get us to and from PVD, preferably in one piece, the CoC saying nothing about relative comfort or a functioning tray table. Still, why does DL feel compelled to put that POS Barbiejet on flights to a metro area with 1.6 million people?
By the way, we will be on one of the CRJs, because the CR9 return flight leaves at 0700, which would require getting up at 0330 or so .
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Ya know, you could always connect in ATL ike many of us do. I'm sure ATL-PVD has mainline equipment. DTW is a fraction of the size of ATL and you can't expect the same luxuries of the ATL hub.
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DTW-ATL-PVD is about 1300.
Unless the purpose is to collect extra miles, it would be silly to fly that to save a little heartache on the CRJ. Now if racking up miles is important, by all means.
The answer isn't always "just connect through ATL."
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It is truly a shame to see Delta cutting capacity on the legendary Detroit to Providence route. The route of kings, they used to call it. Athletes, socialites, and tycoons of industry would hob-nob on the chartered Concordes the airlines assigned to the country's most important route. I don't even know how they managed to serve three full meals on such a short flight, let alone on such exquisite china and with such a variety of fine spirits, but it was the service to which airlines assigned their finest flight attendants. Pilots, furious at being assigned to the likes of LAX-HNL, put out hits on one another to try and leap up the seniority lists, just in the hopes of laying over for a few hours in America's real two most glamorous vacation destinations. It was said to be the route so precious that Mother Nature would drop several feet of snow up North and leave a perfect path cleared through the different waypoints to guide her favorite planes to and from DTW and PVD. It's a damn shame indeed.
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As a PVD based flier I do miss the mainline that NW used to have between PVD and DTW. The realality is not many fly DTW -PVD direct. Therefore pele like me connect via ATL to get where we need to be. If I had my choice I would rather connect via DTW. But I don t run the airline, so I will often fly through BOS it is only an hour away.
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It is truly a shame to see Delta cutting capacity on the legendary Detroit to Providence route. The route of kings, they used to call it. Athletes, socialites, and tycoons of industry would hob-nob on the chartered Concordes the airlines assigned to the country's most important route. I don't even know how they managed to serve three full meals on such a short flight, let alone on such exquisite china and with such a variety of fine spirits, but it was the service to which airlines assigned their finest flight attendants. Pilots, furious at being assigned to the likes of LAX-HNL, put out hits on one another to try and leap up the seniority lists, just in the hopes of laying over for a few hours in America's real two most glamorous vacation destinations. It was said to be the route so precious that Mother Nature would drop several feet of snow up North and leave a perfect path cleared through the different waypoints to guide her favorite planes to and from DTW and PVD. It's a damn shame indeed.
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DTW-PVD is about 530 miles.
DTW-ATL-PVD is about 1300.
Unless the purpose is to collect extra miles, it would be silly to fly that to save a little heartache on the CRJ. Now if racking up miles is important, by all means.
The answer isn't always "just connect through ATL."
DTW-ATL-PVD is about 1300.
Unless the purpose is to collect extra miles, it would be silly to fly that to save a little heartache on the CRJ. Now if racking up miles is important, by all means.
The answer isn't always "just connect through ATL."
#11
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It is truly a shame to see Delta cutting capacity on the legendary Detroit to Providence route. The route of kings, they used to call it. Athletes, socialites, and tycoons of industry would hob-nob on the chartered Concordes the airlines assigned to the country's most important route. I don't even know how they managed to serve three full meals on such a short flight, let alone on such exquisite china and with such a variety of fine spirits, but it was the service to which airlines assigned their finest flight attendants. Pilots, furious at being assigned to the likes of LAX-HNL, put out hits on one another to try and leap up the seniority lists, just in the hopes of laying over for a few hours in America's real two most glamorous vacation destinations. It was said to be the route so precious that Mother Nature would drop several feet of snow up North and leave a perfect path cleared through the different waypoints to guide her favorite planes to and from DTW and PVD. It's a damn shame indeed.
For those of you know PVD, it takes about two miles of walkway to get the rental car agency. I stay at the Hilton Next to the airport. You can't walk there from the airport, but you do pass it on the walkway to the rental cars.
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Because it is a short drive to a much bigger airport and people regularly drive to BOS to save a few bucks? PVD has always struggled to be anything other than an afterthought given the proximity to Logan.
#13
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DTW-PVD is about 530 miles.
DTW-ATL-PVD is about 1300.
Unless the purpose is to collect extra miles, it would be silly to fly that to save a little heartache on the CRJ. Now if racking up miles is important, by all means.
The answer isn't always "just connect through ATL."
DTW-ATL-PVD is about 1300.
Unless the purpose is to collect extra miles, it would be silly to fly that to save a little heartache on the CRJ. Now if racking up miles is important, by all means.
The answer isn't always "just connect through ATL."
ROTFLMAO!! ^^
As a PVD based flier I do miss the mainline that NW used to have between PVD and DTW. The realality is not many fly DTW -PVD direct. Therefore pele like me connect via ATL to get where we need to be. If I had my choice I would rather connect via DTW. But I don t run the airline, so I will often fly through BOS it is only an hour away.
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Funny - people I know in the southern burbs would much rather fly to PVD than put up with the drive in I-95/93 and through the tunnels to get to Logan.
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I do sympathize with the OP, but the above is too funny.
For those of you know PVD, it takes about two miles of walkway to get the rental car agency. I stay at the Hilton Next to the airport. You can't walk there from the airport, but you do pass it on the walkway to the rental cars.
For those of you know PVD, it takes about two miles of walkway to get the rental car agency. I stay at the Hilton Next to the airport. You can't walk there from the airport, but you do pass it on the walkway to the rental cars.