New configuration for BE cabin
Apr 16, 2014, 2:54 pm
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New configuration for BE cabin
I'm bummed if these are true. Here's the rumor:
- revenue passengers usually hover a little less than 30 per international flight
- DL trying to limit the number of non-rev passengers (employees travelling on space available basis)
- encouraging DMs to buy Y, B and M fares and burn upgrade miles instead of using useless global upgrade certs
- removing last row of B772 to accommodate more Y+ seats (no more 14 ABCD)
- removing entire upper deck of B744 and making it all Y+ (2x2 layout)
- removing two rows on the B763 to match the newer B763 biz cabin ending in row 7
Can anybody confirm (flatbed) biz class cabin is shrinking fleetwide? Seems like the proverbial grass will be greener elsewhere but here.
- revenue passengers usually hover a little less than 30 per international flight
- DL trying to limit the number of non-rev passengers (employees travelling on space available basis)
- encouraging DMs to buy Y, B and M fares and burn upgrade miles instead of using useless global upgrade certs
- removing last row of B772 to accommodate more Y+ seats (no more 14 ABCD)
- removing entire upper deck of B744 and making it all Y+ (2x2 layout)
- removing two rows on the B763 to match the newer B763 biz cabin ending in row 7
Can anybody confirm (flatbed) biz class cabin is shrinking fleetwide? Seems like the proverbial grass will be greener elsewhere but here.
Apr 16, 2014, 2:59 pm
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763 and 772 are confirmed. Some of the 772s are already modded... Not sure if they've gone after the 763s. The 744s are still a rumor, and the rumor is 3x3, not 2x2. There are a few existing threads on these changes if you search for them.
And if you were hoping for free/cheap upgrades to the premium cabin on international flights, the grass has already been greener elsewhere for a long time.
And if you were hoping for free/cheap upgrades to the premium cabin on international flights, the grass has already been greener elsewhere for a long time.
Apr 16, 2014, 3:21 pm
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Wouldn't 3-3 be tight on the UD of a 747? Especially when combined with the low overhead bins and generally curvature of the fusilage, which is why the previous generation of 2-2 business class seating had the storage space under windows.
Apr 16, 2014, 3:30 pm
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I'm sure it would, especially for bags, but that hasn't stopped Air France or Virgin Atlantic from configuring them that way.
Apr 16, 2014, 3:55 pm
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AF B747 UD pics:
The first pic appears to be in the middle of the cabin from the exit row forward with equally as many seats behind the photographer.
The first pic appears to be in the middle of the cabin from the exit row forward with equally as many seats behind the photographer.
Apr 16, 2014, 4:13 pm
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It sounds like the 747 rumor is just a rumor. Something DL was seriously looking at but I don't think they are going through with. I think the idea was initially floated to pilots and crew on the 747s, but was shelved due to DL not wanting to spend all the money on mods and have the aircraft out of service when they are going to be retiring the 747 in the near future.
Apr 16, 2014, 5:13 pm
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Apr 16, 2014, 5:35 pm
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Apr 17, 2014, 5:18 am
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This is not surprising at all. This is what I'm afraid of.
Apr 17, 2014, 5:29 am
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Delta would never ask flight crew for approval of a cabin modification. They will do whatever brings in an extra $ .02 in revenue. Do you think the flight crews wanted the rear galley removed on the MD-88?
Apr 17, 2014, 6:37 am
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Apr 17, 2014, 8:43 am
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They were 3-3 with standard Y pitch of 31 or 32". I flew them intra-Asia as recently as 2010, but in the past also did one or two Transpacs up there. As a Y experience I actually preferred it to being downstairs b/c of the more intimate cabin. Yes, it's a little cramped, but you don't get the impression that you are packed in with hundreds of other Y passengers.