cottonpatch

I'm ready for DL to join the club and discontinue the permitting of seat reclineage. I'd definitely pay more for the privilege. Oh yeah, I currently do this. I check seat availability before booking ANY flight. I will not book a seat that has a recliner in front of it and sometimes I have to pay more for the flight. My fear is IRROPS and a new seat assignment that is behind a reclining seat.

Honestly, the EC thing is overblown in my book. I'd much rather have a section of the airplane w/out recliners in it. I'd take the decreased pitch (as if EC were so great anyhow) to guarantee a no recliner seat in front of me.

FlyingUnderTheRadar

Round 2 This week of "Don't you recline":

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/29/travel...html?hpt=hp_t2

Except this time the PAX took it a bit too far with the FA.

readywhenyouare

http://www.deltaprivatejets.com/jet_card.aspx

FlyingUnderTheRadar

Ladies and Gentlemen please note that this a Non-farting flight. Farting the lavatory is also prohibited. Federal law prohibits tampering with or otherwise disabling the fart detector installed in the lavatory and is subject to a $2000 fine.


Queue Deltalina finger wag:




After the forward door is closed flight attendants will be coming around with butt plugs and lube for sale. You may purchase one for $2.00 each or $3.00 for an extra large. If you have your own personal butt plug please feel to insert it. And unlike oxygen masks please secure your own butt plug and do not assist your neighbor unless they ask. Now sit back and enjoy flight we will be taking off at any minute.

rwoman

Agreed. Ryanair and others do the same in Europe...

puddinhead

The 3" the seat reclines causes great discomfort? Do you weigh 500 lbs. or are you claustrophobic?

I fly in FC when available or EC but on barbie jets I just accept it as part of the package. If the person in front of me reclines and I don't I take it as a personal attack on my space and I don't act like a spoiled brat by kicking the seat.

This is a public conveyance. I'm next to kettles, lice and just plain folks who I would probably never invite into my home but that doesn't mean I have to be nasty.

Most of the people who react violently (or passive-aggressive with kicks and the knee defender) do so because this is just another crappy part of flying. Between long lines, TSA gropes, TA's that are overworked and unhappy, flight delays with no reasons provided, expensive parking, overpriced food and water and a plethora of petty charges like the 51st pound in the luggage or a $200 change fee most travelers are fed up and angry. Taking out the rage on a person next to you seems easier than fighting with a faceless airline or uncaring arm of DHS.

SO when someone reclines their seat - calm down and STFU. It isn't a personal affront to your masculinity.

banness

I only recline after the person in front of me reclines. I don't want to spend that much time looking at the hair follicles or lack thereof of the passenger in front of me! Ironically, usually the first people to recline are sitting in the bulkhead seats. I do wish none of the seats reclined.

plagwate

You may control the recline button but I control this:

tom_MN

When one's knees are already against the back of the chair in front before it reclines, it means having to sit sideways as long as the seat is down. It is also impossible to eat on the tray when the seat ahead is reclined (this is food I brought on the plane, and of course no onions or french fries!).

Like I said, we have both anuses (ani?) and recliner buttons but decent people choose not to use either in flight when others so close.

scottsam66

Airlines allow both flatulence AND reclining. You like neither, rent a private jet, and hold in your meadow muffins, and sit erect.

I find snoring pretty aggravating too, but realize most people cant control it. Farting is kinda the same way. Humans fart like 30-40 times a day on average, and medical doctors advise against holding them in.
Moral of the story, you are complaining about coach seats. If you want more space fly private, or upfront. (Though wind breakers (not the jacket variety) frequent first class too)

telloh

Haha, nice try, but preventing a seat from reclining isn't violating any FAA regulation.

telloh

Sorry, but you're wrong. It is in fact a trivial distinction, because there is no case where intimidating an FA would not interfere with or lessen his ability to perform.

(One who assaults, threatens, or intimidates a flight crew member or attendant while aboard an aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States, and thereby interferes with the performance of that crew member's duties or lessens the ability of that crew member to perform his/her duties is punishable under this subsection.)

puddinhead

That's a subtle nuance lost on UA FA's. Intimidation on UA usually results in flight diversion.

telloh

In this analogy, just as in real life, the blaring TV is disturbing the customer next door, not anybody on the street. There isn't a noise law anywhere that applies to a private place. It's a matter internal to the private property of the hotel. It's a matter for the hotel to deal with, just like reclining passengers are a matter for an airline to deal with. The point is: the TV-blarer is using the device exactly as it's designed to be used, and he paid to use it.

As many have suggested, shouldn't anybody offended just rent a suite or stay in a private lodge instead, the equivalent of flying in the first class cabin?

Hotels tend to tell impolite people to cut it out. Airlines don't.

But you are right about one thing. Blaring a TV at 3AM and egregious seat-reclining, such as into the knees of a tall person, are outside the bounds of normal courtesy, because they are offensive to other humans.

twtrvl

American Airlines seems to be having some trouble this week with French men. This is the second incident.


http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...elled-bad.html

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/08/2...ted-to-boston/