cfischer

I have been looking at some fares earlier this week and stumbled across some weird UP fares on Delta.com. Some of the fare rules are rather odd to say the least. Does anyone have any insight? Is this a new Delta thing to sell F seats?

BOSORL-DL 18MAR11 *RULE DISPLAY* TARIFF 0191 RULE EC99
-FARE BASIS USD TAX TOTAL PTC FT
QA07A0VP/WNUP 263.26 19.74 283.00 ADT NL
BOOKING CODES A Q I
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - ERT - 3RD LEVEL ECONOMY RESTRICTED
FIRST TRAVEL - 2MAR11 LAST TRAVEL - 8JUN11
TRAVEL COMPLETE - 8JUN11
FARE BY RULE
FARE BY RULE TEXT
FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXISTAPPLICATION RULE
FARE BY RULE TEXT
ECONOMY WEB FARE WITH AN INSTANT UPGRADE AT THE TIME OF
PURCHASE TO FIRST/BUSINESS
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
PLEASE NOTEBOTH
ECONOMY AND FIRST CLASS BOOKING INVENTORIES
MUST BE AVAILABLE AT TIME OF BOOKING.
ADVANCE RES/TKTG
FARE BY RULE TEXT
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE NOT PERMITTED UNTIL 90
DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.

TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT 1 DAY AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
NOTE -
STANDBY IS NOT PERMITTED.
SAME DAY CONFIRM/SDC -
PASSENGERS HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND
TICKETS MAY CONFIRM EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY
FLIGHTS BETWEEN SAME ORIGIN/DESTINATION/
STOPOVER POINTS FOR A NON-REFUNDABLE FEE OF
USD 50.00 PLUS ANY DIFFERENCE IN GOVERNMENT
IMPOSED ITINERARY BASED FEES. NEW ITINERARY
MAY NOT BE CONFIRMED MORE THAN 3 HOURS PRIOR
TO DEPARTURE TIME OF NEW OUTBOUND FLIGHT. THE
NEW ITINERARY MUST BE VALID FOR THE ORIGINAL
FARE PURCHASED. EXCEPTION- IF ORIGINAL FARE
PURCHASED REQUIRES TRAVEL VIA A CONNECTING
POINT - TRAVEL VIA NON STOP SERVICE IS
PERMITTED FOR NO DIFFERENCE IN FARE.
SEE PENALTIES/VOLUNTARY CHANGES FOR COMPLETE
RULES AND RESTRICTIONS.
FARE RULES TEXT
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS
BEFORE DEPARTURE.
WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT 1 DAY AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
NOTE -
STANDBY IS NOT PERMITTED.
SAME DAY CONFIRM/SDC -
PASSENGERS HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND
TICKETS MAY CONFIRM EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY
FLIGHTS BETWEEN SAME ORIGIN/DESTINATION/
STOPOVER POINTS FOR A NON-REFUNDABLE FEE OF
USD 50.00 PLUS ANY DIFFERENCE IN GOVERNMENT
IMPOSED ITINERARY BASED FEES. NEW ITINERARY
MAY NOT BE CONFIRMED MORE THAN 3 HOURS PRIOR
TO DEPARTURE TIME OF NEW OUTBOUND FLIGHT. THE
NEW ITINERARY MUST BE VALID FOR THE ORIGINAL
FARE PURCHASED. EXCEPTION- IF ORIGINAL FARE
PURCHASED REQUIRES TRAVEL VIA A CONNECTING
POINT - TRAVEL VIA NON STOP SERVICE IS
PERMITTED FOR NO DIFFERENCE IN FARE.
SEE PENALTIES/VOLUNTARY CHANGES FOR COMPLETE
RULES AND RESTRICTIONS.
TRVL RESTRICTION
FOOTNOTE TEXT
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON EACH TRIP ON/AFTER
02MAR 11. TRAVEL ON THIS FARE COMPONENT MUST COMMENCE BY
MIDNIGHT ON 08JUN 11.

SURCHARGES
FARE BY RULE TEXT
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT
AND LAX/SFO
ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL VIA JFK AIRPORT
A SURCHARGE OF USD 50.00 FARE COMPONENT WILL BE ADDED TO
THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL IN AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-
300 AIRCRAFT.
AND - A SURCHARGE OF USD 50.00 FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL IN BOEING
777-200LR AIRCRAFT.
AND - A SURCHARGE OF USD 200.00 FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.

A SURCHARGE OF USD 50.00 FARE COMPONENT WILL BE ADDED TO
THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL IN AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A330-
300 AIRCRAFT.
AND - A SURCHARGE OF USD 50.00 FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL IN BOEING
777-200LR AIRCRAFT.
FLIGHT APPLIC
FARE BY RULE TEXT
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY DL
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY OO
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY OH
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY EV
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY F8
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY RP
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY S5
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY XJ
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY CP
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9E.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE
ON NONSTOP FLIGHTS.
GENERAL RULES TEXT
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 02MAR 11
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
DL FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 1334
DL FLIGHTS 1400 THROUGH 5899
DL FLIGHTS 5962 THROUGH 5996
DL FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 9999
IN COMBINATION WITH
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY DL FLIGHT.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 02MAR 11
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
DL FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 1334
DL FLIGHTS 1400 THROUGH 5899
DL FLIGHTS 5962 THROUGH 5996
DL FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 9999.
NOTE -
1. NO DELTA SHUTTLE.
TRANSFERS
FARE BY RULE TEXT
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT USD 20.00 EACH
ONLINE ON THE PRIMARY CARRIER
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
ENDORSEMENTS
GENERAL RULES TEXT
THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREFUNDABLE -
AND - CHANGE FEE MAY APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
SALE RESTRICTION
FARE BY RULE TEXT
FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY CRS 1S AND TRAVEL AGENTS.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES/CANADA.
OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY CRS 1V AND TRAVEL AGENTS.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES/CANADA.
OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY CRS 1G AND TRAVEL AGENTS.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES/CANADA.
OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY CRS 1A AND TRAVEL AGENTS.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES/CANADA.
OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY CRS 1P AND TRAVEL AGENTS.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES/CANADA.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
GENERAL RULES TEXT
NOTE -
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT
CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
PENALTIES
GENERAL RULES TEXT
CHANGES
CHARGE USD 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION/UNTICKETED
PTA.
NOTE -
THE USD150.00 IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE CHARGE.
-SAME DAY CONFIRM/SDCSAME
DAY CONFIRM/SDC PASSENGERS HOLDING CONFIRMED
RESERVATIONS AND TICKETS MAY CONFIRM TRAVEL FOR
LESS THAN 3 HOURS PRIOR TO THE NEW FLIGHT ON AN
EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY DL NONSTOPAND/OR
CONNECTING FLIGHTS BETWEEN SAME ORIGIN AND
DESTINATION AIRPORTS FOR A USD 50.00 FEE PLUS ANY
DIFFERENCE IN GOVERNMENT IMPOSED ITINERARY BASED
FEES.
NOTE -
A. SEAT INVENTORY MUST BE AVAILABLE IN THE CABIN
APPLICABLE TO THE FARE CHARGED
B. CHANGES PERMITTED TO OUTBOUND OR CONTINUING/
RETURN FLIGHTS
C. FLIGHT/S AND ROUTING MUST BE APPLICABLE FOR
THE FARE CHARGED. EXCEPTION-IF ORIGINAL
FARE PURCHASED REQUIRES TRAVEL VIA A
CONNECTING POINT TRAVEL IS PERMITTED VIA NON
STOP SERVICE.
D. IF THE REQUESTED CHANGE IS NOT APPLICABLE FOR
THE FARE PURCHASED IE INVALID ROUTING/AIRPORT
/ETC THE CUSTOMER MAY UPGRADE TO A FARE THAT
DOES PERMIT THOSE CHANGES USING NORMAL
REISSUE PROCEDURES OF PAYING ANY FARE
DIFFERENCE PLUS ASC.
E. IF THE CUSTOMER REQUESTS THE CHANGE MORE
THAN 3 HOURS PRIOR TO NEW FLIGHT DEPARTURE
TIME THE CUSTOMER CAN CONFIRM ON A DIFFERENT
FLIGHT ON THE SAME DAY OF TICKETED TRAVEL BY
PAYING THE ASC PLUS ANY APPLICABLE FARE
DIFFERENCE.
IF MULTIPLE CHANGES ARE MADE AT THE SAME TIME -
SAME DAY CONFIRM DOES NOT APPLY. USE NORMAL
REISSUE PROCEDURES OF PAYING ANY FARE DIFFERENCE
PLUS ASC. TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN ANY
VOLUNTARY CHANGEIS MADE.
-GDPR - GUARANTEED DAY OF PURCHASE RULE
DOMESTIC PSGR TRANSPORTATION IS SUBJECT TO RULES/

FARE/ROUTINGS/CHARGES/ IN EFFECT ON THE DAY/TIME
THE TICKET IS ISSUED/PTA PURCHASED UNLESS
SPECIFIED IN THE FARE RULES.
IF A DECREASE OCCURS AFTER A TICKET IS PURCHASED
AND PRIOR TO ANY TRAVEL ON THE TICKET OR A NEW
FARE FOR WHICH THE PASSENGER QUALIFIES BECOMES
EFFECTIVE THE DIFFERENCE MAY BE CREDITED
PROVIDED
1. THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION
STOPOVER POINTS/FLIGHTS/DATES.
2. ALL CONDITIONS OF THE NEW/REDUCED FARE MUST
BE MET. THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE OF ISSUE
MAY NOT BE USED TO SATISFY ADVANCE/RES
TICKETING REQUIREMENTS. THE BOOKING CODE OF
THE NEW/REDUCED FARE MAY DIFFER FROM THE
BOOKING CODE ON THE ORIGINAL TICKET.
3. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE LESS THE APPLICABLE
ASC MUST BE RETURNED IN A NONREFUNDABLE
DTV/MCO GOOD FOR ONE YEAR TO THE PASSENGER
NAMED ON THE TICKET.
-TICKET REISSUE PROCEDURESI.
CHANGES TO OUTBOUND PORTION OF UNUSED TICKETS
A. ISSUE A NEW TICKET - CANCEL AND START OVER
B. MUST USE CURRENT FARES
C. VERIFY ALL RULES INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE
II. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN OF UNUSED TICKETS
-MODIFIED ADVANCE PURCHASE
DETERMINE THE APPLICABLE ADVANCE PURCHASE BY
CALCULATING THE NUMBER OF DAYS BETWEEN THE
ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE AND DATE OF
DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST FLIGHT SEGMENT OF EACH
PRICEABLE UNIT. THE ADVANCE PURCHASE OF ANY
REPLACEMENT FARE MUST BE EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN
THIS NUMBER.
A. ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE FARES AS TICKETED
-CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY
FARE COMPONENT
-MUST BE ABLE TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL FARES AS
TICKETED FOR ALL FARE COMPONENTS
-USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
-USE MODIFIED ADVANCE PURCHASE FOR EACH
PRICEABLE UNIT
-ALL OTHER RULE DATE MUST BE VERIFIED
B. REPRICE KEEPING OUTBOUND FARES AND REPLACING
CONTINUING/RETURN FARE COMPONENTS USING
HISTORICAL FARES
-CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF THE
FIRST FARE COMPONENT
-USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
-THE VALUE OF THE NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL
OR HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL TICKET
-USE MODIFIED ADVANCE PURCHASE OF EACH
PRICEABLE UNIT.
-ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY.
C. ISSUE A NEW TICKET/CANCEL AND START OVER
-MUST USE CURRENT FARES/VERIFY ALL RULES
INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE
-VALUE OF ORIGINAL TICKET LESS ASC.
WHEN APPLICABLE...MAY BE APPLIED TOWARD
PURCHASE OF NEW TICKET
-ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
III. CHANGES TO PARTIALLY USED TICKETS
MUST COMPLETE TRAVEL BY 1 YEAR FROM THE
ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE
-MODIFIED ADVANCE PURCHASE
DETERMINE THE APPLICABLE ADVANCE PURCHASE BY
CALCULATING THE NUMBER OF DAYS BETWEEN THE
ORIGINAL TKT ISSUE DATE AND DATE OF DEPARTURE OF
THE FIRST FLIGHT SEGMENT OF EACH PRICEABLE UNIT.
THE ADVANCE PURCHASE OF ANY REPLACEMENT FARE

MUST BE EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN THIS NUMBER.
A. ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE FARES AS TICKETED
-CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
COMPONENT
-MUST BE ABLE TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL FARES AS
TICKETED FOR ALL FARE COMPONENTS
-USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF
THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
-USE MODIFIED ADVANCE PURCHASE FOR EACH
PRICEABLE UNIT
-ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED INCLUDING
FARE COMBINABILITY
B. REPRICE KEEPING FARES FOR FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS
AND REPLACE UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USING
HISTORICAL FARES
-CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF THE FLOWN
FARE COMPONENT/S/
-USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF
THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
-THE VALUE OF THE NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL TO
OR HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL TICKET
-USE MODIFIED ADVANCE PURCHASE FOR EACH
PRICEABLE UNIT
-ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED INCLUDING
FARE COMBINABILITY
C. REPRICE REPLACING FARES FOR FLOWN FARE
COMPONENTS WITH HISTORICAL FARE/S/ IN AN EQUAL
OR HIGHER BOOKING CLASS AND REPLACE UNFLOWN
FARE COMPONENTS USING HISTORICAL FARES.
-REPLACEMENT FARES FOR FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS
MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE AND BOOKING
CLASS THAN THE ORIGINAL TICKETED FARE
-CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF THE FLOWN
FARE COMPONENT/S/
-USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF
THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
-THE VALUE OF THE NEW TICKET MUST BE EQUAL OR
HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL TICKET
-USE BOOKING CLASS HIERARCHY WHEN REPLACING
FARES FOR FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS
THE HIERARCHY IS
ECONOMY CLASS - Y B M H Q K L U T
BUSINESS CLASS - J C D I
FIRST CLASS - F A
-USE MODIFIED ADVANCE PURCHASE OF EACH PRICEABLE
UNIT.
-ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED INCLUDING
FARE COMBINABILITY.
D. ISSUE A NEW TICKET
-APPLY ANY RESIDUAL VALUE /IF ANY/ LESS THE
ASC TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET
-CALCULATE NEW TICKET USING CURRENT FARES
-VALIDATE ALL RULES
CANCELLATIONS
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW.
NOTE -
THIS CANCELLATION FEE WILL ALSO BE ASSESSED TO
REFUNDS OF COUPONS INVOLVING FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE.
PER TICKET CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR LOST TICKET.
NOTE -
NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR MILITARY
PASSENGERS WHEN TRANSPORTATION IS PAID WITH A U.S.
GOVERNMENT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST FORM NO. 1169.
COMBINABILITY
FARE RULES TEXT
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER DL/AF/AZ/KL/AS/AM
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH US-CANADA
TRANSBORDER/DOMESTIC FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER DL/CO/UA/AA/AS/AC/HA/US/
9K/WP/JV
OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE
TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH DL
FARES IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
-TO FORM 2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS
-TO FORM MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE BREAK POINTS PERMITTED.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINTBWI-
WAS FLL-MIA LAX-ONT LAX-SNA NYC-EWR OAK-SFO
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINTBWI-
WAS FLL-MIA LAX-ONT LAX-SNA NYC-EWR OAK-SFO
OAK-SJC SFO-SJC LAX-BUR
ROUTING 113 FROM-TO BOS-TPA/FLL/IND/BDL/WAS/NYC/ATL/MEM/
CVG/DTT-ORL*
FROM-TO BOS-ORL*

MR_MAMA

Yikes, long post. They have been selling cheap upgrades for a few months.

mnbp

Connecting the dots.... If there has to be a pulldown of Japan service, perhaps JFK-SFO/LAX is one place to use spare A330 and B777 aircraft....

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-shortage.html

DLdweeb

Can someone post an executive summary?

mnbp

The OP wrote the first post in this thread and included a cut/paste of a fare rule. The OP highlighted in bold text referring to a surcharge for JFK-SFO/LAX flights that applies only when such flights are operated by A330 or B777 aircraft. JFK-SFO/LAX are not currently operated with such aircraft, so one inference is that the OP's point was that this surcharge text is interesting (in the OP's words, "Wierd").

cfischer

yeah, sorry, I tried to wrap it into quotes, but then the bolding went away.

Correct: A330/B777 surcharges as well a $20 fee per connection. Never seen this before in fare rules. Also a very strange base fare class with ticket designator

Marylou

OK. Let me tell you what I read in that post that concerns me:

PASSENGERS HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND
TICKETS MAY CONFIRM EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY
FLIGHTS BETWEEN SAME ORIGIN/DESTINATION/
STOPOVER POINTS FOR A NON-REFUNDABLE FEE OF
USD 50.00 PLUS ANY DIFFERENCE IN GOVERNMENT
IMPOSED ITINERARY BASED FEES. NEW ITINERARY
MAY NOT BE CONFIRMED MORE THAN 3 HOURS PRIOR
TO DEPARTURE TIME OF NEW OUTBOUND FLIGHT. THE
NEW ITINERARY MUST BE VALID FOR THE ORIGINAL
FARE PURCHASED

I'm not sure what they mean by that. In the past, UP fares such as the A fare let you SDC as long as there was any seat in the cabin you originally booked into. It was not limited to the fare you purchased. Does this mean if your A fare is B-UP, there must be an A fare with B-up available?

Granted, it's been some time since I've had to SDC on an A fare, but when I did, the original booking class was not an issue except with one misinformed agent, but I got it sorted out after some cajoling.

cfischer

And right now UP fares appear to credit as coach fares with no bonus as well ... I wouldn't be surprised if they put you back in coach in case of SDC.

Timothy in MN

I've found one of these UP fare connections via Kayak.com. But how do you book them on Delta.com? I'm struggling with searching/booking the combination I've found. My out bound is MSP-SLC-OAK, and the return is OAK-LAX-MSP. It's the LAX-MSP segment that has the WNUP.

Called Delta reservations and they were able to book it. And they waived the call an agent fee. :-)