Apple Pay and Rewards Network (Dining for Miles)
Oct 26, 2014, 8:46 pm
#16
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If you are able to, you should try to make a purchase with the number online or as a manual entry on a credit card terminal - I'd be interested to see what happens.
Oct 28, 2014, 4:15 pm
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I posted the following in the Amex forum, which I think is somewhat related to this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...got-offer.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...got-offer.html
Oct 28, 2014, 7:16 pm
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I posted the following in the Amex forum, which I think is somewhat related to this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...got-offer.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...got-offer.html
Dividend Dining does not.
Oct 28, 2014, 11:45 pm
#20
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How Apple Pay Really Works makes it sound like the device account number would not be authorized for payment without the one-time-generated crypto security code.
Oct 29, 2014, 5:56 am
#21
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EDIT: The other issue for me that would complicate things is that I did 2 transactions back to back for the same amount. They would be extra confused by that.
Oct 29, 2014, 6:03 am
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The interesting part is that the terms of the offer indicated that payment through electronic wallets might not qualify, yet this one at least did.
Oct 29, 2014, 12:15 pm
#23
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I don't think we need to explain anything. They know exactly how their system works and will have heard of Apple Pay. Just ask them if restaurant transactions made with registered cards through Apple Pay will be tracked and credited, and if not how you can register your Apple Pay device.
Last edited by mia; Oct 29, 2014 at 12:24 pm
Nov 3, 2014, 10:25 am
#24
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I don't think we need to explain anything. They know exactly how their system works and will have heard of Apple Pay. Just ask them if restaurant transactions made with registered cards through Apple Pay will be tracked and credited, and if not how you can register your Apple Pay device.
Thank you for contacting us.
To earn benefits through our program, your current registered credit card must be swiped at the participating restaurant. Unfortunately, transactions processed through a third party company, such as Apple Pay, would not earn benefits.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me or call Member Services at 1-888-419-6683.
Sincerely,
Member Services
To earn benefits through our program, your current registered credit card must be swiped at the participating restaurant. Unfortunately, transactions processed through a third party company, such as Apple Pay, would not earn benefits.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me or call Member Services at 1-888-419-6683.
Sincerely,
Member Services
Nov 3, 2014, 11:21 am
#25
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My reply was worded differently:
At this time our system is unable to track dining information if your card is used through Apple Pay. Please note the credit card must be processed directly through the merchants credit card system in order for the information to be tracked.
Nov 3, 2014, 12:33 pm
#26
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Interesting on their differing replies. In any case it certainly sounds like they are taking a "not our problem" approach to the matter of Apple Pay not working with their program.
Nov 3, 2014, 12:41 pm
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If Apple Pay or similar services becomes successful it will be very much their problem because it will undermine this portion of their business model. (They are primarily in the business of lending money to restaurants, this is a way to drive business. There are other ways.) I would not expect them to say much more until they have negotiated a solution, but to begin they may just want to see if there is a measurable falloff.
Nov 7, 2014, 11:49 pm
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Not Apple Pay per se, but does Google Wallet send the same card number that's on the Google Wallet debit card? If so, couldn't one get the debit card and sign that up for iDine, etc. and get the rewards that way? You'd have to preload money into your Wallet account but at 2.7% for preloading with a credit card you'd still be ahead if you're at the 5x level.
Nov 24, 2014, 9:18 pm
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So I actually scanned my phone recently with cardpeek and definitely got a different card number than the debit card. However, I don't think that card number changes, so it should be possible to register it on iDine and get your rewards. I haven't been able to find a place that's on iDine that supports contactless to test yet though. (And your mileage definitely varies on Apple Pay.)
May 28, 2015, 1:58 pm
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Since my last post in this thread I switched from Android to the iPhone 6 and have been using Apple Pay at various places. A while ago I scanned my iPhone, got the full Device Account Numbers for my Rewards Network cards and added them to MileagePlus Dining. I totally forgot I had done this until today when I got an email from them asking to rate a place where I used Apple Pay.
So yeah, if you're willing to jump through some hoops Apple Pay will indeed work with the airline dining programs. When I get home I can post some instructions on getting the full DANs for those interested. ^
So yeah, if you're willing to jump through some hoops Apple Pay will indeed work with the airline dining programs. When I get home I can post some instructions on getting the full DANs for those interested. ^