Best seat on the Island Hopper
#1
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Best seat on the Island Hopper
Flying this in March, and ideally of course I'd love to be CPU'd (look how nicely I used the new terminology). But if I get stuck in coach, it's not the end of the world. I can get the exit rows right now, but I figure I should suck it up and try to get a seat that isn't over the wing so I can see the atolls and snap off some photos for the folks at home. Any seats in particular that are better than others? I'm normally not a huge fan of bulkheads since I'm 6'4" and my legs don't have anywhere to go, but if there's cutouts or something similar, that might not be bad.
Thanks in advance for replies,
Chris
Thanks in advance for replies,
Chris
#2
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They fly a 737-800 on the island hopper route so I'd suggest anyone of the exit rows as a good seat if you don't get CPU'd.
BTW - good use of the new terminology - it's gonna take me some time to get used to it.
BTW - good use of the new terminology - it's gonna take me some time to get used to it.
#3
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I've flown the hopper on the left side window in F and wasn't disappointed at all with the views. I don't recall wishing I had a view out the right side at any point.
As you point out, the trouble with an exit row is that your view looking down is blocked by the wing. And the views are spectacular.
I'd recommend bulkhead window left side. I'm as tall as you and normally hesitant to sit in the bulkhead without cutouts but in this case the bulkhead wins, given the unobstructed view, boarding, and carry-on baggage issues.
The carry-on baggage in economy can be very colorful, as can be the passengers. That's the only time I've ever seen a 4' tall styrofoam horseshoe, similar to those with sprays of flowers used at funerals, carried onboard. They wound up parking it under two seats in F.
You should know that at each stop 1/2 (one side) of economy is required to deplane, including all carry-ons, for a security sweep of the aircraft. They alternate left side/right side at each stop. Luggage carts are parked at the base of the stairs for the bags while you walk to the terminal.
Since there are no jetways on the islands, if it's raining, prepare to get wet. Sometimes there are umbrellas at the bottom of the stairs.
F cabin is exempt from the required deboarding.
All in all, a memorable experience - hope you enjoy it!
As you point out, the trouble with an exit row is that your view looking down is blocked by the wing. And the views are spectacular.
I'd recommend bulkhead window left side. I'm as tall as you and normally hesitant to sit in the bulkhead without cutouts but in this case the bulkhead wins, given the unobstructed view, boarding, and carry-on baggage issues.
The carry-on baggage in economy can be very colorful, as can be the passengers. That's the only time I've ever seen a 4' tall styrofoam horseshoe, similar to those with sprays of flowers used at funerals, carried onboard. They wound up parking it under two seats in F.
You should know that at each stop 1/2 (one side) of economy is required to deplane, including all carry-ons, for a security sweep of the aircraft. They alternate left side/right side at each stop. Luggage carts are parked at the base of the stairs for the bags while you walk to the terminal.
Since there are no jetways on the islands, if it's raining, prepare to get wet. Sometimes there are umbrellas at the bottom of the stairs.
F cabin is exempt from the required deboarding.
All in all, a memorable experience - hope you enjoy it!
Last edited by mw362; Dec 22, 2011 at 3:36 pm
#4
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I'm planning on doing the Hopper on March 23rd. For viewing, I've been told to sit in A or F and forward or way behind the wings.
#6
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westbound. HNL-GUM. The eastbound was flying at night.
#7
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Yes, avoid rows that are obstructed by the wings or engines.
Another note of interest: the runway on at least one island is so short that the onboard mechanic had to bring out an industrial blower from a shed adjacent to the terminal to cool off the brakes on the landing gear before taking off again. The pictures really are amazing. You are "up close and personal" with a 737 in ways that few other than pilots and maint. techs ever get to see.
Some good pictures are in the various trip reports lilke this: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...d.main/159576/
Last edited by mw362; Dec 22, 2011 at 4:09 pm
#8
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Nice link there. I'm flying it eastbound in March.
#9
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sorry to hijack the thread, but as this is island-hopper related, I hope it's ok to ask here.
According to matrix, CO 172 skips KSA on Wednesdays (at least for the few dates in May 2012 I've checked) and flies directly PNI-KWA. Is this some kind of regular "express" connection as opposed to the Monday/Friday hopper, or is this a temporary/seasonal thing?
According to matrix, CO 172 skips KSA on Wednesdays (at least for the few dates in May 2012 I've checked) and flies directly PNI-KWA. Is this some kind of regular "express" connection as opposed to the Monday/Friday hopper, or is this a temporary/seasonal thing?
#10
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What are the chances of CPU anyway?
I'll be 1k. Is it segment by segment or basically for the whole hnl-gum route?
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sorry to hijack the thread, but as this is island-hopper related, I hope it's ok to ask here.
According to matrix, CO 172 skips KSA on Wednesdays (at least for the few dates in May 2012 I've checked) and flies directly PNI-KWA. Is this some kind of regular "express" connection as opposed to the Monday/Friday hopper, or is this a temporary/seasonal thing?
According to matrix, CO 172 skips KSA on Wednesdays (at least for the few dates in May 2012 I've checked) and flies directly PNI-KWA. Is this some kind of regular "express" connection as opposed to the Monday/Friday hopper, or is this a temporary/seasonal thing?
Chris
#12
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New CPU chart says HNL-GUM is not eligible
http://mileageplusmergerupdates.com/...Overview#chart
but does this count as such, really? Anybody have experience with EUA/UDU/CPU on this route?
but does this count as such, really? Anybody have experience with EUA/UDU/CPU on this route?
#13
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http://mileageplusmergerupdates.com/...Overview#chart
but does this count as such, really? Anybody have experience with EUA/UDU/CPU on this route?
but does this count as such, really? Anybody have experience with EUA/UDU/CPU on this route?
#14
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Correct. Most of the promotion material I see takes care to say "Non-stops" between HNL and GUM. The island-hopper clearly has stops.
Unfortunately, I've always had the Y fare (and thus got the Y-Up), so I can't tell you your upgrade chances. First has always been full when I've gone, but a good portion of them are probably UGs.
Going West to East I prefer the Right side of the plane, at least in TRK and PNI.
Unfortunately, I've always had the Y fare (and thus got the Y-Up), so I can't tell you your upgrade chances. First has always been full when I've gone, but a good portion of them are probably UGs.
Going West to East I prefer the Right side of the plane, at least in TRK and PNI.
#15
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I just booked the Hopper GUM-HNL for March 23rd.