Chinese "tea ceremony" scam, "see my art" and other scams
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Firstly even assuming you could get a real couple to play along with it, they probably wouldn't know their "child" well enough to convince others. If the person has been scamming enough to have a well rehearsed set of rental parents then you'll just have to hand it to them to sell you the scam thru and thru. But my guess is that most scammers would probably not make the effort and just move on to easier targets.
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I consider the marriage scam in a different class of it's own. In my mind this thread is more about scams typical tourists might see.
That being said, anyone expat that dates an attractive Chinese should always beware. And to me if you are fooled and you didn't do your homework, I really don't have that much sympathy for you.
That being said, anyone expat that dates an attractive Chinese should always beware. And to me if you are fooled and you didn't do your homework, I really don't have that much sympathy for you.
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so i'm heading to Beijing for 1st time. I've transited there and been to Chengdu 2 times & Guangzhou once. Pretty savvy traveller. I just have 1 day in Bj and definitely plan to stroll around Tianamen/Forbidden City...so I assume high likely hood of being approached.
Here's my question...I'm pretty savvy traveler, and now fully aware of the different scams. Is there any danger in engaging the girls...doing the whole, chatting, walking, etc. Then we we arrive at the Tea place, or Art place...and just saying "oh no...nevermind" and taking off, while still out on the street.
Would like to turn the tables and waste their time...and even chat with the pretty girl - but obviously wouldn't do this if any physical risk. Like if they pull out a whistle or yell and some dudes come a chasin'!
Just thinking as long as I dont enter inside any place I'm safe? Or not worth it?
Here's my question...I'm pretty savvy traveler, and now fully aware of the different scams. Is there any danger in engaging the girls...doing the whole, chatting, walking, etc. Then we we arrive at the Tea place, or Art place...and just saying "oh no...nevermind" and taking off, while still out on the street.
Would like to turn the tables and waste their time...and even chat with the pretty girl - but obviously wouldn't do this if any physical risk. Like if they pull out a whistle or yell and some dudes come a chasin'!
Just thinking as long as I dont enter inside any place I'm safe? Or not worth it?
#604
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so i'm heading to Beijing for 1st time. I've transited there and been to Chengdu 2 times & Guangzhou once. Pretty savvy traveller. I just have 1 day in Bj and definitely plan to stroll around Tianamen/Forbidden City...so I assume high likely hood of being approached.
Here's my question...I'm pretty savvy traveler, and now fully aware of the different scams. Is there any danger in engaging the girls...doing the whole, chatting, walking, etc. Then we we arrive at the Tea place, or Art place...and just saying "oh no...nevermind" and taking off, while still out on the street.
Would like to turn the tables and waste their time...and even chat with the pretty girl - but obviously wouldn't do this if any physical risk. Like if they pull out a whistle or yell and some dudes come a chasin'!
Just thinking as long as I dont enter inside any place I'm safe? Or not worth it?
Here's my question...I'm pretty savvy traveler, and now fully aware of the different scams. Is there any danger in engaging the girls...doing the whole, chatting, walking, etc. Then we we arrive at the Tea place, or Art place...and just saying "oh no...nevermind" and taking off, while still out on the street.
Would like to turn the tables and waste their time...and even chat with the pretty girl - but obviously wouldn't do this if any physical risk. Like if they pull out a whistle or yell and some dudes come a chasin'!
Just thinking as long as I dont enter inside any place I'm safe? Or not worth it?
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But something clicked like getting some modicum of "revenge" for other foreigners they have scammed. I'm sure in the end I won't do it...
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And please don't forget that you might end up in some shady area (without even knowing where you actually are) from where it might be hard to get away. The availability of taxis pretty much depends on where you end up and what the current conditions (night, rain etc.) are.
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It is very noble of you to seek revenge for white boys trying to cure their "yellow fever".
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If you fancy to meet "real" girls then hit up on of the coffee places (not Starbucks, but those rather cosy places that are opening like crazy all over China) - best chance to find someone being able to speak English well (I assume you can't speak Chinese) and who wouldn't mind to spend a few hours of being your "tourist guide" in exchange for a coffee and some conversation.
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If you fancy to meet "real" girls then hit up on of the coffee places (not Starbucks, but those rather cosy places that are opening like crazy all over China) - best chance to find someone being able to speak English well (I assume you can't speak Chinese) and who wouldn't mind to spend a few hours of being your "tourist guide" in exchange for a coffee and some conversation.
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*I've found some coffee places in NKG and CAN which do have rather cheap, decent beer and snacks, and where I wouldn't mind spending 6-8 RMB for a glass of it, as compared to Bars (15-20+ RMB) which are both more loud and less cozzy for those times I really just want to chill.
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I don't visit the area much but I'd imagine the nerdy types don't frequent coffee shops within the 2nd ring all that often, they are usually resigned to the margins of Wudakou and other such studenty places. Let's be honest though, nerdy Chinese types have a 0% chance of turning into the prom queen by taking off their glasses and letting down their hair as they do in those 'popular jock accepts bet' type US movies
Not really a coffee drinker but do enjoy a trip to Maan Coffee every now and again who have cornered the market in my little piece of town. Very much Yummy Mummy territory though, whether or not that is the OP's thing....
Zoo Coffee is jokes, though fair play they have managed to survive 'bankrupt corner' on the Upper East Side for more than a year. They hilariously ripped of the Lets Burger logo, menu design and everything before obviously being pulled up on it. Seemed to have opened a location at Solana, but seeing as Coldstone had to close their operation there, can't see it lasting.
Bit off topic methinks anyway
Not really a coffee drinker but do enjoy a trip to Maan Coffee every now and again who have cornered the market in my little piece of town. Very much Yummy Mummy territory though, whether or not that is the OP's thing....
Zoo Coffee is jokes, though fair play they have managed to survive 'bankrupt corner' on the Upper East Side for more than a year. They hilariously ripped of the Lets Burger logo, menu design and everything before obviously being pulled up on it. Seemed to have opened a location at Solana, but seeing as Coldstone had to close their operation there, can't see it lasting.
Bit off topic methinks anyway