CNN commentator Angela Rye outraged over TSA pat-down
Dec 26, 2016, 12:16 am
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Even with Global Entry and/or PreCheck membership, a person can be subjected to this kind of "extensive pat down", more so when PreCheck doesn't show up on the boarding pass than when it does show up on the boarding pass.
Dec 26, 2016, 4:50 am
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I'm pulling for the TSA in this case. Angela Rye's article- mentioning the designer of her dress, her Delta status, etc.- paints the picture of a self-absorbed drama queen who is looking for trouble. Just do what the TSA person needs and be done with it. The TSA person is the same gender, using the back of the hand for the contact--clearly the TSA person isn't trying to feel her up.
Dec 26, 2016, 5:35 am
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How do we know the TSA screener wasn't trying to feel her up? Some TSA screeners really do try to feel up some passengers. And isn't the order of the day for the TSA doing such gropes to feel up passengers until the screener meets "the resistance" with their hands. That "resistance" being a euphemism for sexual parts of the human body.
The TSA screener was not only using the back of the hand, if the screener were following the standard operating procedure/practice for the situation.
Dec 26, 2016, 6:39 am
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1. I can't hear the video due to some issue with YouTube - but I've read that the screener asked Ms. Rye at some point during the assault, if she had "a sock in her thing" - is that true and was the question referring to her genital area?
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Dec 26, 2016, 8:34 am
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I'm pulling for the TSA in this case. Angela Rye's article- mentioning the designer of her dress, her Delta status, etc.- paints the picture of a self-absorbed drama queen who is looking for trouble. Just do what the TSA person needs and be done with it. The TSA person is the same gender, using the back of the hand for the contact--clearly the TSA person isn't trying to feel her up.
The screener used the front of her hands too, particularly on the legs and groin.
Dec 26, 2016, 9:04 am
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I'm pulling for the TSA in this case. Angela Rye's article- mentioning the designer of her dress, her Delta status, etc.- paints the picture of a self-absorbed drama queen who is looking for trouble. Just do what the TSA person needs and be done with it. The TSA person is the same gender, using the back of the hand for the contact--clearly the TSA person isn't trying to feel her up.
Dec 26, 2016, 9:46 am
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Same or different gender, same difference. Same gender sexual assault is still sexual assault. Even if the excuse includes "just following orders" and it being done while the actor is in uniform on the job.
Dec 26, 2016, 6:48 pm
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She has both PreCheck and GE.
ETA:
1. I can't hear the video due to some issue with YouTube - but I've read that the screener asked Ms. Rye at some point during the assault, if she had "a sock in her thing" - is that true and was the question referring to her genital area?
ETA:
1. I can't hear the video due to some issue with YouTube - but I've read that the screener asked Ms. Rye at some point during the assault, if she had "a sock in her thing" - is that true and was the question referring to her genital area?
The sock conversation only comes after the screener asks for her boot.
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Dec 26, 2016, 11:24 pm
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She has both PreCheck and GE.
ETA:
1. I can't hear the video due to some issue with YouTube - but I've read that the screener asked Ms. Rye at some point during the assault, if she had "a sock in her thing" - is that true and was the question referring to her genital area?
Totally other topic:
2. I've read many comments on AskTSA about people leaving rings, wedding rings especially, at checkpoints. Is TSA now making people remove rings before going through WTMD or scanner?
ETA:
1. I can't hear the video due to some issue with YouTube - but I've read that the screener asked Ms. Rye at some point during the assault, if she had "a sock in her thing" - is that true and was the question referring to her genital area?
Totally other topic:
2. I've read many comments on AskTSA about people leaving rings, wedding rings especially, at checkpoints. Is TSA now making people remove rings before going through WTMD or scanner?
Dec 27, 2016, 5:34 am
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Pre Check guarantees nothing. TSA will use regular screening at times, TSA does not offer Pre at all airports/security lanes, and not all airlines participate. Buying TSA Pre Check is an empty promise of Bait and Switch
Dec 27, 2016, 6:20 am
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The scanner showed a hit on areas around her genitalia, this and other things are in the articles linked. Why offer an op-ed about procedure instead of reading Angela's account of what actually happened.
Dec 27, 2016, 8:34 am
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IIRC, the scanner showed 3 hits to the "groin" area and one hit on one of her boots. Of course, the assault produced no contraband (unless something was hidden in her bra which the screener failed to search in violation of search protocol) and was a total waste of time and resources.
Dec 27, 2016, 9:26 am
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You can get the "random" alert at the WTMD, for one (e.g. you pass through without an alarm, but a half second or so later, it beeps, and the readout above the WTMD says "RND" or something similar).
They then direct you to the nude-o-scope, and following the nude-o-scope, they may want to do a groping.
Heck, I recall traveling with GE and being subject to a private room TSA groping and interrogation (with threats made to call in the FBI by the screeners) on one occasion when their ETD machine was busted and kept alarming on me. GE didn't prevent that at all, and the screeners just kept saying, "This day we're in, you can never be too safe."
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Dec 27, 2016, 9:53 am
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Seems to me a machine that even approaches a 50% false alarm rate would be junked forthwith. Of course TSA screeners have a 95% miss rate so maybe the machines are still better than their human counterparts.