CBP Enters Aircraft Prior to Disembarkation
Jul 3, 2016, 12:27 am
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CBP Enters Aircraft Prior to Disembarkation
Filmed by someone else on-board a BR flight:
CBP border guards with a printed list went inside the cabin and escorted several pax off the plane according to their seat numbers. I assume the officers at least looked at their travel documents to match identities before telling them to get out. Passengers switch seats during in-flight all the time.
I have not (thankfully) but has anyone ever experienced something in that nature on their flights? If so, hope you weren't the one that was escorted off the plane.
SOT: Out of curiosity concerning border officers removing someone from an aircraft, do CBP officers at preclearance locations have the power to board an aircraft and force someone off the aircraft before it departs? For example, can a CPB officer at the YVR preclearance enter the cabin of an MSP bound plane to remove a passenger because that person turned out to be inadmissible and was mistakenly allowed into the preclearence boarding area? If that flight had already departed by the time the error was discovered, what would be their next course of action?
BTW I would not recommend anyone filming the ordeal in this type of situation. The person who recorded the actions was rather fortunate that the officers likely did not see him/her recording or he/she also could have easily been ordered off the aircraft and sent to secondary.
For the record, the flight number is incorrect. BR255 is not an LAX flight (nor any of their US flights).
CBP border guards with a printed list went inside the cabin and escorted several pax off the plane according to their seat numbers. I assume the officers at least looked at their travel documents to match identities before telling them to get out. Passengers switch seats during in-flight all the time.
I have not (thankfully) but has anyone ever experienced something in that nature on their flights? If so, hope you weren't the one that was escorted off the plane.
SOT: Out of curiosity concerning border officers removing someone from an aircraft, do CBP officers at preclearance locations have the power to board an aircraft and force someone off the aircraft before it departs? For example, can a CPB officer at the YVR preclearance enter the cabin of an MSP bound plane to remove a passenger because that person turned out to be inadmissible and was mistakenly allowed into the preclearence boarding area? If that flight had already departed by the time the error was discovered, what would be their next course of action?
BTW I would not recommend anyone filming the ordeal in this type of situation. The person who recorded the actions was rather fortunate that the officers likely did not see him/her recording or he/she also could have easily been ordered off the aircraft and sent to secondary.
For the record, the flight number is incorrect. BR255 is not an LAX flight (nor any of their US flights).
Last edited by Zapzig; Jul 3, 2016 at 12:37 am
Jul 3, 2016, 5:18 am
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Filmed by someone else on-board a BR flight:
CBP Boarding EVA air flight 255 on 5/30/2016 - YouTube
CBP border guards with a printed list went inside the cabin and escorted several pax off the plane according to their seat numbers. I assume the officers at least looked at their travel documents to match identities before telling them to get out. Passengers switch seats during in-flight all the time.
I have not (thankfully) but has anyone ever experienced something in that nature on their flights? If so, hope you weren't the one that was escorted off the plane.
SOT: Out of curiosity concerning border officers removing someone from an aircraft, do CBP officers at preclearance locations have the power to board an aircraft and force someone off the aircraft before it departs? For example, can a CPB officer at the YVR preclearance enter the cabin of an MSP bound plane to remove a passenger because that person turned out to be inadmissible and was mistakenly allowed into the preclearence boarding area? If that flight had already departed by the time the error was discovered, what would be their next course of action?
BTW I would not recommend anyone filming the ordeal in this type of situation. The person who recorded the actions was rather fortunate that the officers likely did not see him/her recording or he/she also could have easily been ordered off the aircraft and sent to secondary.
For the record, the flight number is incorrect. BR255 is not an LAX flight (nor any of their US flights).
CBP Boarding EVA air flight 255 on 5/30/2016 - YouTube
CBP border guards with a printed list went inside the cabin and escorted several pax off the plane according to their seat numbers. I assume the officers at least looked at their travel documents to match identities before telling them to get out. Passengers switch seats during in-flight all the time.
I have not (thankfully) but has anyone ever experienced something in that nature on their flights? If so, hope you weren't the one that was escorted off the plane.
SOT: Out of curiosity concerning border officers removing someone from an aircraft, do CBP officers at preclearance locations have the power to board an aircraft and force someone off the aircraft before it departs? For example, can a CPB officer at the YVR preclearance enter the cabin of an MSP bound plane to remove a passenger because that person turned out to be inadmissible and was mistakenly allowed into the preclearence boarding area? If that flight had already departed by the time the error was discovered, what would be their next course of action?
BTW I would not recommend anyone filming the ordeal in this type of situation. The person who recorded the actions was rather fortunate that the officers likely did not see him/her recording or he/she also could have easily been ordered off the aircraft and sent to secondary.
For the record, the flight number is incorrect. BR255 is not an LAX flight (nor any of their US flights).
My guess for your question in entering the cabin at a preclearance location would be their powers are restricted to clearing people and any action in the cabin would have to be performed by security/police officials of the host country.
Jul 4, 2016, 3:41 pm
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I have seen CBP and other border guards in jetways just never actually come on the airplane.
From what I know about pre-cleared flights is that CBP at their choice can re-screen a pre-cleared flight on arrival.
From what I know about pre-cleared flights is that CBP at their choice can re-screen a pre-cleared flight on arrival.
Jul 4, 2016, 4:50 pm
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I've seen CBP and other border control/police authorities come on board some of my flights to get some passengers off. Sometimes it's due to wanted criminal suspect grabs, document fraud concerns, underdeclared money concerns, other export control violations and so on. With non-US carriers, CBP has been relatively more likely to go on board a boarded flight than if the flight were US carrier operated.