Long TSA Lines [merged threads]
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Sure, the ID check isn't foolproof - which is why it's utterly useless as a security measure - but it's more than good enough to stop the average person from bringing the entire clan to see the Grans off to Boca or to visit Uncle Fred in Cheyenne. Most people won't buy a refundable ticket and then cancel, especially not for a whole family; the funds involved are prohibitive.
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If the TSA abruptly decided to screen everyone by Precheck, it would generate headlines like "Security Standards Lowered!" and "TSA Compromises Safety!" Instead, if they simply increased the number of people who receive Precheck-style screening, they can present it as a risk-based program and it's unlikely to generate opposition.
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h joy - the NY Times has the expected "Give them more money to shorten the lines" op-ed piece this morning. It says in part this:
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Congress authorized $4.15 billion for the T.S.A.’s airport screening operation in 2016, up just $37 million from the year before. That’s clearly inadequate, given the increase in passengers. In addition to more money, the T.S.A. needs greater flexibility to increase spending when demand for air travel surges. For example, Congress should allow the department to tap into more of the money the government collects from a security tax levied on tickets when traffic grows faster than projected. In the past, Congress has diverted some of that revenue to the general fund.
The security agency can also reduce wait times by making smart adjustments that don’t require congressional action. One step, suggested by a trade association representing airports, is to give local T.S.A. managers the power to spend more money on overtime during busy periods without consulting headquarters.
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Congress authorized $4.15 billion for the T.S.A.’s airport screening operation in 2016, up just $37 million from the year before. That’s clearly inadequate, given the increase in passengers. In addition to more money, the T.S.A. needs greater flexibility to increase spending when demand for air travel surges. For example, Congress should allow the department to tap into more of the money the government collects from a security tax levied on tickets when traffic grows faster than projected. In the past, Congress has diverted some of that revenue to the general fund.
The security agency can also reduce wait times by making smart adjustments that don’t require congressional action. One step, suggested by a trade association representing airports, is to give local T.S.A. managers the power to spend more money on overtime during busy periods without consulting headquarters.
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#349
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General security comment
Mods, posting here because it is more of a general statement, but please move if appropriate.
Just came through security at B Terminal of BWI. General security lines are very long. I fly through here pretty much every week, the lines are never this long. Can't help but notice this is happening immediately after TSA planted stories about expecting much longer lines and how they need more staff/funding. Once again, I fly out of here at least once per week on average, so have a pretty good data set.
Anyone else observing the same at their home airport?
Just came through security at B Terminal of BWI. General security lines are very long. I fly through here pretty much every week, the lines are never this long. Can't help but notice this is happening immediately after TSA planted stories about expecting much longer lines and how they need more staff/funding. Once again, I fly out of here at least once per week on average, so have a pretty good data set.
Anyone else observing the same at their home airport?
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h joy - the NY Times has the expected "Give them more money to shorten the lines" op-ed piece this morning. It says in part this:
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It would avoid PR problems.
If the TSA abruptly decided to screen everyone by Precheck, it would generate headlines like "Security Standards Lowered!" and "TSA Compromises Safety!" Instead, if they simply increased the number of people who receive Precheck-style screening, they can present it as a risk-based program and it's unlikely to generate opposition.
If the TSA abruptly decided to screen everyone by Precheck, it would generate headlines like "Security Standards Lowered!" and "TSA Compromises Safety!" Instead, if they simply increased the number of people who receive Precheck-style screening, they can present it as a risk-based program and it's unlikely to generate opposition.
TSA claims to be using Risk Based Security but that just is not true when the majority of people are being screened in the regular security lines. TSA has failed doing it their way so now is time to mandate changes that benefit the public and puts some controls on TSA's ability to determine its on path.
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Kippie once said "ID matters" and that was that. The airlines are mor than happy to have the federal government perform revenue control for them. The ID checks are a great way for the TSA to catch druggies, people with cash, deadbeat dads and illegals. This is why ID checks will never go away.
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Widely reported syndrome at many US airports. Lots of people missing flights because they did not show up at T minus three hours.
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Kippie once said "ID matters" and that was that. The airlines are mor than happy to have the federal government perform revenue control for them. The ID checks are a great way for the TSA to catch druggies, people with cash, deadbeat dads and illegals. This is why ID checks will never go away.
Exactly how do ID checks as done by TSA catch druggies, people with cash, deadbeat dads and illegals?
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