Long TSA Lines [merged threads]
#376
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it was
The united terminal at ORD. Giving United flyers a heads up. And frankly I do think that United and the airlines should do something about this. It's not okay and going to wreck their operations and drive away customers. Will not make it a nice summer for anybody.
#377
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This complaint is common across all airlines, across all airports in recent months. There have been news stories of issues at ATL, SEA, MSP, EWR, PHX, etc. It's not a United issue. It's a TSA incompetence issue.
#379
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Please followed this in the Practical Travel Safety and Security forum. That is the forum for TSA matters.
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From my boarding pass:
Temporary closure: Security Checkpoint 3, Terminal 1 at Chicago OHare
Priority security lines for MileagePlus® Premier® members, Star Alliance Gold members, military personnel, customers with disabilities requiring additional assistance and employees have moved to Security Checkpoint 2. If you are departing from Chicago, please allow extra time for security processing.
This certainly exacerbates the issue. And believe me, I'm not trying to make any excuses for the TSA's abhorrent behavior.
Temporary closure: Security Checkpoint 3, Terminal 1 at Chicago OHare
Priority security lines for MileagePlus® Premier® members, Star Alliance Gold members, military personnel, customers with disabilities requiring additional assistance and employees have moved to Security Checkpoint 2. If you are departing from Chicago, please allow extra time for security processing.
This certainly exacerbates the issue. And believe me, I'm not trying to make any excuses for the TSA's abhorrent behavior.
#382
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As reported in the NYT last week:
Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security (NYT, 2016 May 02)
Specifically mentioned in the article are ORD T3 (AA), PHL, CLT, ATL, MIA, NYC (presumably, all of them), SEA, and DEN. Or, basically, all hub airports on all carriers.
Methinks I will be putting all that zen/yoga/yin-yang positivity practice to some serious test this summer.
Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security (NYT, 2016 May 02)
Specifically mentioned in the article are ORD T3 (AA), PHL, CLT, ATL, MIA, NYC (presumably, all of them), SEA, and DEN. Or, basically, all hub airports on all carriers.
Methinks I will be putting all that zen/yoga/yin-yang positivity practice to some serious test this summer.
#383
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Incompetence? Or a deliberate attempt to extort more money out of Congress?
#384
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Something's gotta give. 07:00 at DEN today saw the south checkpoint PreCheck line snake all the way back to baggage claim - had to be 30-45 mins. The regular line was at least an hour or more.
I had CLEAR so I was thru in 5 mins. TSA is going to have to do something this summer or there's going to be full scale riots.
I had CLEAR so I was thru in 5 mins. TSA is going to have to do something this summer or there's going to be full scale riots.
#385
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Flew out of DAL today. Free PreCheck. TDC didn't appear to be TSA employee although a 1 strip screener was monitoring. No marks on boarding pass. Carry on bag xray operator was calling for numerous bag checks including mine. Regular screening line was stacked up but no sense of the wait. I did note that the TDC was friendly as were the TSA people I had contact with.
It's gone beyond shameful to downright outrageous. I've seen reports of deliberate work stoppages - ie, checkpoint cleared and shutdown while the TSOs staffing it continue to stand around for 20 minutes. I've seen reports of the xray operators sitting back and taking a break while the belt stops.
Congress told Neffy he could have more money. He already had more than enough, but instead of spending it on working TSOs, he spent it on an 'academy' and BDOs and now-missing Ipads and other shiny toys. What the heck does he want now? It's clear that Pre is a fraud, because FSDs across the nation continue to refuse to provide the service.
From my boarding pass:
Temporary closure: Security Checkpoint 3, Terminal 1 at Chicago OHare
Priority security lines for MileagePlus® Premier® members, Star Alliance Gold members, military personnel, customers with disabilities requiring additional assistance and employees have moved to Security Checkpoint 2. If you are departing from Chicago, please allow extra time for security processing.
This certainly exacerbates the issue. And believe me, I'm not trying to make any excuses for the TSA's abhorrent behavior.
Temporary closure: Security Checkpoint 3, Terminal 1 at Chicago OHare
Priority security lines for MileagePlus® Premier® members, Star Alliance Gold members, military personnel, customers with disabilities requiring additional assistance and employees have moved to Security Checkpoint 2. If you are departing from Chicago, please allow extra time for security processing.
This certainly exacerbates the issue. And believe me, I'm not trying to make any excuses for the TSA's abhorrent behavior.
Something's gotta give. 07:00 at DEN today saw the south checkpoint PreCheck line snake all the way back to baggage claim - had to be 30-45 mins. The regular line was at least an hour or more.
I had CLEAR so I was thru in 5 mins. TSA is going to have to do something this summer or there's going to be full scale riots.
I had CLEAR so I was thru in 5 mins. TSA is going to have to do something this summer or there's going to be full scale riots.
They've got their 'academy' and they've got their money from Congress. There's something else going on now.
Last edited by TWA884; May 9, 2016 at 9:05 am Reason: Merge consecutive posts
#386
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ATL is now advising passengers to arrive 3 hours before their flight, per the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:
Apparently TSA has decided to close 1 of 3 checkpoints in this terminal to redesign it to test a faster way to process.
Here's an idea: get rid of ineffective equipment that is slow, creates security holes, and makes us all less safe by creating a perfect environment for a Brussels-style bombing. It would appear that Neffy wants to create opportunities to harm American citizens.
The picture in the link is stunning, and an egregious display of TSA's gross incompetence.
The lines early Monday morning stretched from the main security checkpoint through the atrium, around the corner, winding back and forth between baggage claim carousels, then down the hallway of the domestic terminal.
Here's an idea: get rid of ineffective equipment that is slow, creates security holes, and makes us all less safe by creating a perfect environment for a Brussels-style bombing. It would appear that Neffy wants to create opportunities to harm American citizens.
The picture in the link is stunning, and an egregious display of TSA's gross incompetence.
#388
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I wondered what the 'new technology' being installed and calibrated at the now-closed checkpoint was. What better time and place to roll out 'new technology' than at the world's busiest airport at the start of an extended peak travel period. Shut down an entire checkpoint at an airport that's already so slammed by TSA's work slowdown that it has talked about going to private security.
This untested 'new technology' being urgently rolled out is supposed to improve checkpoint transit times. It would be interesting to know if Neffy benefits directly from this 'technology'.
Oh...wondering what this 'new technology' is? Apparently it's 1) the US version of the automated tub returns that have been seen at non-US airports for years and 2) a chip-in-bin mechanism to automatically divert suspect bags for bag checks.
Not sure how either of these 'improvements' will improve checkpoint transit times, but someone at TSA is going to make $$$ off this stuff, and that's the real concern.
Meanwhile, Congress sits on its hands. I've read that there's no work slowdown at the DC airports. Presumably members of Congress and their families are getting preferential front-of-line treatment (or they're hopping on donors' corporate jets) when they return to DC from their home airports. There's no way they are waiting patiently in three hour lines every week. That's for us 'little people'.
This untested 'new technology' being urgently rolled out is supposed to improve checkpoint transit times. It would be interesting to know if Neffy benefits directly from this 'technology'.
Oh...wondering what this 'new technology' is? Apparently it's 1) the US version of the automated tub returns that have been seen at non-US airports for years and 2) a chip-in-bin mechanism to automatically divert suspect bags for bag checks.
Not sure how either of these 'improvements' will improve checkpoint transit times, but someone at TSA is going to make $$$ off this stuff, and that's the real concern.
Meanwhile, Congress sits on its hands. I've read that there's no work slowdown at the DC airports. Presumably members of Congress and their families are getting preferential front-of-line treatment (or they're hopping on donors' corporate jets) when they return to DC from their home airports. There's no way they are waiting patiently in three hour lines every week. That's for us 'little people'.
Last edited by chollie; May 9, 2016 at 10:51 am
#389
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So the airport hires a worker to perform the TDC function so TSA can free up an employee to do something more useful - but TSA decides that the now-unnecessary TDC has nothing better to do than stand around doing nothing while an airport employee does his/her job duties?
Has anyone else seen non-TSA TDC's?
#390
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ATL is now advising passengers to arrive 3 hours before their flight, per the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:
Apparently TSA has decided to close 1 of 3 checkpoints in this terminal to redesign it to test a faster way to process.
Apparently TSA has decided to close 1 of 3 checkpoints in this terminal to redesign it to test a faster way to process.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/aviati...creening-lines