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Old Jan 17, 2016, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Often1
You are wrong. But, it's not material to this thread and an endless argument.

All comes back to the fact that you owe the USG money and the USG is perfectly entitled to and ought to use its resources to assure that you don't have assets to pay that debt which you haven't disclosed (given that you've acknowledged the debt and are in negotiations for a payment plan).

What you don't pay means: increased debt, or higher taxes, or lower services for the rest.
No, it's not that simple for the topic is more extensive than about any one individual. It all comes back to the fact that the IRS uses the CBP to go after taxpayers and non-taxpayers. More people should be aware of this fact but aren't.
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Old Jan 17, 2016, 6:02 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
"foundlings" under 5 years of age in the US may get US citizenship too when they have been found with birth circumstances unknown.
I've never heard that term before.

"Foundlings" sounds like a 1980's Corey Feldman movie.
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
I've never heard that term before.

"Foundlings" sounds like a 1980's Corey Feldman movie.
It sort of does sound like a 1980's movie or some kind of title for a sci-fi/fantasy piece, but it's been used for decades before the 1980s too.

You may want to check this out if you haven't already (as it covers American foundlings):

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf

The place of birth listed in passports tend to be the place where the child was found.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 5:20 am
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There's a lot of interesting comments in this thread, many of them on point, some of them non relevant.

OP has, by his own admission, a civil tax debt to the US Treasury, which he is paying off to the IRS.

Do we feel comfortable with CBP detaining people on the basis of civil issues submitted to a database? In other words, someone in the Treasury Department, with what appears to be little to no oversight, is adding people willy-nilly to TECS.

To all the US Citizens on here: Remember that CBP is a law enforcement agency. It's exactly like being stopped by a cop. Remember that there are real implications (including criminal) and fines to not declaring things, not being honest, etc. Your best bet is to fill out the form honestly and then shut up for any other interaction. But, at the end of the day, they can't deny you entry on return.

To the foreign nationals: You're screwed. answer or go home.
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Old Jan 24, 2016, 10:47 am
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To the foreign nationals: You're screwed. answer or go home.
As it should be.
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Old Jan 24, 2016, 6:06 pm
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
As it should be.
Foreign nationals at US POEs don't have zero rights.
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Old Jan 24, 2016, 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Foreign nationals at US POEs don't have zero rights.
No one said they have no rights. They have the right not to be physically assaulted, strip searched for no reason, etc.

But they do have to answer questions about their intentions and their background or go home, and that's not unreasonable.
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Old Jan 24, 2016, 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
No one said they have no rights. They have the right not to be physically assaulted, strip searched for no reason, etc.

But they do have to answer questions about their intentions and their background or go home, and that's not unreasonable.
It depends.

Some questions asked on arrival may be unreasonable; and conditioning admission upon demands for answers to some questions may be as unreasonable if those questions were asked of some foreign nationals as if they were asked of US citizens. And answering some questions may result in more problems than not answering some questions.
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Old Jan 24, 2016, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
No one said they have no rights. They have the right not to be physically assaulted, strip searched for no reason, etc.

But they do have to answer questions about their intentions and their background or go home, and that's not unreasonable.
That's not what you said -- you said it's "as it SHOULD be". When you say they "have to answer questions" about what they are doing, you're talking about how things ARE, which is a very different thing from how things SHOULD be. Foreigners are subjected to intimidation, harassment and interrogation upon arrival in the USA, which is no doubt the biggest single reason why CBP is by far the most widely despised border control organisation in the world. What CBP SHOULD do is start treating travellers with respect.
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