Passengers Departing the US Searched for Drugs / Undeclared Money on Jet Bridge
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Passengers Departing the US Searched for Drugs / Undeclared Money on Jet Bridge
Two of us and our baby were about to board an Asiana flight from ORD to Seoul. I was asked how much cash we were carrying . We had $300 and we were made to sign that declares the amount and our signatures. After that while all the other passengers were boarding, the same famale agent which had border patrol logo searched our small hand carry on which had nothing but diapers and baby food. Searched our jackets, wallet, purses, wife's hand bag,baby car seat. Asked us why were going to Seoul, who pays for the trip what we do and etc. The agent ransacked our hand carry-ons. She than wrote down some info from my passport
I didn't talk back due to fear of missing our flights. I love this country, its founding and rights we were supposed to have under our Constitution but I don't think we actually have any constitutional basic rights. Are they not finding potential terrorists going overseas and they think it is OK for them to harass law abiding citizens and families who are just going for vacation to Seoul?
I didn't talk back due to fear of missing our flights. I love this country, its founding and rights we were supposed to have under our Constitution but I don't think we actually have any constitutional basic rights. Are they not finding potential terrorists going overseas and they think it is OK for them to harass law abiding citizens and families who are just going for vacation to Seoul?
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Asian American family stopped and searched
Searching outbound passengers for undeclared currency has been reported many times in the board as well as CBP press release. Nothing unusual here.
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I would file a complaint with the CBP for the simple reason that it sounds as though you were singled out because of your race, searched without probable cause, and force to sign a document that you did not need to sign. I am no expert in CBP exits I believe all you needed to state was that you were carrying under the legal limit which required a declaration.
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Asian-Americans are targeted by CBP for transporting cash in excess of $10,000 for non-filing of the required declaration form. The hunt used to be mainly aimed at drug money runners, but then the aim got modified; and for several years now the search has shifted dramatically more to go after the wealthiest ethnic minorities in America, some of which are Asian. So being Asian-American flying to Asia does have a lot to do with it.
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You simply fit a profile (yes, that includes perfectly decent people traveling with a baby) or were picked randomly. Searching for cash mules on outbounds at the airport is a common activity, it's just like searching for drugs or other contraband coming into the country.
I fail to see what the fuss is about if it was done properly and with a bit of respect. You may not like it, but you basically have little rights when crossing borders.
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No probable cause is needed by CBP, the standard at border crossings is substantially lower to just having a reasonable suspicion. They are simply doing their job.... and the race card probably won't fly either. I bet that flight to ICN has more than a few Asians, and not all were searched.
You simply fit a profile (yes, that includes perfectly decent people traveling with a baby) or were picked randomly. Searching for cash mules on outbounds at the airport is a common activity, it's just like searching for drugs or other contraband coming into the country.
I fail to see what the fuss is about if it was done properly and with a bit of respect. You may not like it, but you basically have little rights when crossing borders.
You simply fit a profile (yes, that includes perfectly decent people traveling with a baby) or were picked randomly. Searching for cash mules on outbounds at the airport is a common activity, it's just like searching for drugs or other contraband coming into the country.
I fail to see what the fuss is about if it was done properly and with a bit of respect. You may not like it, but you basically have little rights when crossing borders.
Only a small minority of departing passengers get searched by customs as if a cash mule. Of the small minority searched on departure, perceived ethnic minorities are more likely to be checked than others. Why should anyone be surprised that customs functions are rather frequently performed on a racist basis in countries? CBP is no exception in this regard; and it's rather telling that when anti-racist profiling measures were up for consideration by headline names in the current US Admin, the DHS characters got in gear to lobby for an exemption so as to make sure that engagement in racist profiling wasn't stopped for them too.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...bdc_story.html
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And for the race card.... first it's a flight to Korea, so a fair bet some of those traveling will be Asian :-). And second... chances are probably higher if a profile is used than do random searches. Whatever you might think, it's a job and I think those doing it know more than the average poster here. It's not the TSA we are talking about here....
I travel fairly often, and get stopped sometimes (single white guy from AMS) in specific countries. For other countries they target others (for instance arriving in AMS the Asian middle age ladies with 3 suitcases will get stopped because they know/assume they will be carrying all kinds of groceries that are prohibited). Racial profiling.... probably it's one factor they use, there are others.
And why would it be a problem anyway when that gets results? It's not like you are harassed randomly. You are at a border crossing where everybody is subject to being searched.
And what's the solution here, Asian couples with a baby should be excluded from searches? Or only random (decided by whom) should be allowed?
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I see stories of people caught with large amounts of cash fairly often.... yes, it's probably a very, very small percentage of those traveling. But people need to be searched to catch them anyway, even if it's not common.
And for the race card.... first it's a flight to Korea, so a fair bet some of those traveling will be Asian :-). And second... chances are probably higher if a profile is used than do random searches. Whatever you might think, it's a job and I think those doing it know more than the average poster here. It's not the TSA we are talking about here....
I travel fairly often, and get stopped sometimes (single white guy from AMS) in specific countries. For other countries they target others (for instance arriving in AMS the Asian middle age ladies with 3 suitcases will get stopped because they know/assume they will be carrying all kinds of groceries that are prohibited). Racial profiling.... probably it's one factor they use, there are others.
And why would it be a problem anyway when that gets results? It's not like you are harassed randomly. You are at a border crossing where everybody is subject to being searched.
And what's the solution here, Asian couples with a baby should be excluded from searches? Or only random (decided by whom) should be allowed?
And for the race card.... first it's a flight to Korea, so a fair bet some of those traveling will be Asian :-). And second... chances are probably higher if a profile is used than do random searches. Whatever you might think, it's a job and I think those doing it know more than the average poster here. It's not the TSA we are talking about here....
I travel fairly often, and get stopped sometimes (single white guy from AMS) in specific countries. For other countries they target others (for instance arriving in AMS the Asian middle age ladies with 3 suitcases will get stopped because they know/assume they will be carrying all kinds of groceries that are prohibited). Racial profiling.... probably it's one factor they use, there are others.
And why would it be a problem anyway when that gets results? It's not like you are harassed randomly. You are at a border crossing where everybody is subject to being searched.
And what's the solution here, Asian couples with a baby should be excluded from searches? Or only random (decided by whom) should be allowed?
Even a broken clock may be right twice a day in displaying the right time. Much the same goes for racist profiling at airports, which more rarely displays the right crime/violation than it displays racist profiling as a wild goose chase that is more often wrong than right in finding what it is supposed to find.
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I would file a complaint with the CBP for the simple reason that it sounds as though you were singled out because of your race, searched without probable cause, and force to sign a document that you did not need to sign. I am no expert in CBP exits I believe all you needed to state was that you were carrying under the legal limit which required a declaration.
Seems like whenever law enforcement does their job and the person being searched happens to be a minority, it is automatically labelled as discrimination.
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Is it fine to force us to write the only $300 we were carrying and than demand to sign our names? She herself said you are allowed to carry up to $5000. She Checked everything we had for 10 mins . She couldn't find any illegal cash or illegal stuffs she hoped and prayed for and she would still copy some information from my passport on a piece of paper.