petaluma1

I read this on the blog this morning:

This wouldn't surprise me.

BTW, Ross, where is the response from the TSA to the public comment on AIT?

Loren Pechtel

Drugs and cash aren't metallic. The WTMD does nothing to advance the true mission of the TSA.

WhyNotKnow

The current plan is to add the L3s to PreCheck lanes to afford passengers with implants the opportunity to use the L3.

RadioGirl

Except that the question in the OP was about replacing the WTMD with the MMW ("removing the walk through metal detectors"), not about adding a MMW.
Ross who?

Himeno

What a waste of time and money.
If someone with precheck needs to use the scanner, they can just open the gate in front of the WTMD and have that pax go through the scanner in the next line.

Schmurrr

They have done the opposite in AUS. At Checkpoint 2 this morning, three WTMD-only lanes are now available for PreCheck and "Managed Inclusion." The single lane available for everybody else is MMW only.

guflyer

So is the TSA replacing metal detectors in precheck lanes with body scanners, or is an additional option being added?

Also, what is the source of the blog post that the original poster cited? I cannot find it anywhere?

BSBD

Many of us have seen body scanners added to the PreCheck lanes at a number of airports in the last few months.

TSA Ross posted in another thread on FT that these body scanners are supposed to supplement the WTMDs currently in place. He was asked if going through the scanner will truly be optional, but he has not answered that question as of yet.

redtigeriii

From what I've read on here and also from other second hand information,something like this is happening at PDX with people getting granted pre-check and getting sent through MMW. I'm not sure if they are just doing this during the slower times & shutting down the WTMD dedicated to pre-check, or if there is some sort of random selection that is always applicable now even with the lane in full operation.

Too bad this news came out just after I applied for GE, primarily for the benefit of Pre-Check. If I'm pre-check in the future and get sent through the MMW (and opt out), it begs the question how they'd do the waistband check and touching of the feet with belt and shoes on.

petaluma1

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...59601343373681

petaluma1

Do you really expect an straight out honest answer?

gsoltso

I have seen nor heard anything about replacing the WTMD in Pre-check lines, I have however, seen that some AIT machines have been moved to the Pre lines in order to provide alternate screening methods to folks that cna't pass through the WTMD without alarming. So, nothing I have seen other than that one comment from an anonymous source (with no linkage to refer to I might add), indicates that this is happening. (that is about as striahgt an answer as I can give you!)

CDKing

Whats up with this crap. Full body scanners at the JFK T8 precheck. Random alarm goes off on WTMD and instead of ETD swab you get radiated.

petaluma1

Well, you're no longer being radiated as with backscatter, but you've got a 50/50 chance of having some screener's hands on some part of your body due to the MMW false alarm rate. Maybe the screeners rebelled at doing full pat downs of anyone who alarmed the WTMD so the TSA in its infinite wisdom decided to send those alarms through MMW. Maybe TSA realized that the ETD swabs are essentially useless. (I can dream, can't I?)

Strange though. WTMD alarms so the victim gets sent through MMW, which may not alarm thus allowing someone with some disallowed item onto a plane.

Wouldn't it be easier and faster to just bring back hand-held metal detectors to deal with WTMD alarms? Of course it would, but that's too easy for the TSA.

shenxing

It seems unlikely that they would be completely removed. WTMDs are the only screening method for pilots and flight attendants plus children, the elderly, and those with an inability to use the NOS.