So TSA can pull up federal ID info?
Nov 4, 2013, 4:21 pm
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So TSA can pull up federal ID info?
I was doing an MR on Saturday leaving from BWI. Used a mobile BP - of course I wasn't pre-check eligible (big surprise 
). I used my CAC for my ID. He scans the barcode on the back, and it pulls up my pic (from my CAC) and info.
Now, is all that somehow encoded on the barcode, or is TSA tapping into some federal database to get that info?
It was disturbing to see my photo and info pull up on a TSA system.
). I used my CAC for my ID. He scans the barcode on the back, and it pulls up my pic (from my CAC) and info.Now, is all that somehow encoded on the barcode, or is TSA tapping into some federal database to get that info?
It was disturbing to see my photo and info pull up on a TSA system.
Nov 4, 2013, 5:26 pm
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I was doing an MR on Saturday leaving from BWI. Used a mobile BP - of course I wasn't pre-check eligible (big surprise ). I used my CAC for my ID. He scans the barcode on the back, and it pulls up my pic (from my CAC) and info.
Now, is all that somehow encoded on the barcode, or is TSA tapping into some federal database to get that info?
It was disturbing to see my photo and info pull up on a TSA system.
). I used my CAC for my ID. He scans the barcode on the back, and it pulls up my pic (from my CAC) and info.Now, is all that somehow encoded on the barcode, or is TSA tapping into some federal database to get that info?
It was disturbing to see my photo and info pull up on a TSA system.
From BWI's website:
TSA Pre✓™ for Active Duty Military
Active duty service members in the U.S. Armed Forces are eligible to participate in TSA Pre✓™ at BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport. TSA Pre✓™ checkpoint locations for active duty military are at Concourse A (starting November 13, 2013), Concourse C (starting November 5, 2013) and Concourse D. Eligible service members do not need to be in uniform to be considered for TSA Pre✓™.
Active duty members of the military can present their Common Access Cards (CAC) to a TSA officer in front of the TSA Pre✓™ lane, where it will be scanned to determine if they qualify for expedited screening .TSA uses a CAC card reader and computer connected to a Department of Defense database to verify the service member’s active duty status before they are cleared to receive TSA Pre✓™ screening benefits. Eligible service members do not need to be in uniform to be considered for TSA Pre✓™.
Nov 4, 2013, 6:21 pm
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According to BWI's website, TSA does a look up on your CAC to determine active duty status.
From BWI's website:
TSA Pre✓™ for Active Duty Military
Active duty service members in the U.S. Armed Forces are eligible to participate in TSA Pre✓™ at BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport. TSA Pre✓™ checkpoint locations for active duty military are at Concourse A (starting November 13, 2013), Concourse C (starting November 5, 2013) and Concourse D. Eligible service members do not need to be in uniform to be considered for TSA Pre✓™.
Active duty members of the military can present their Common Access Cards (CAC) to a TSA officer in front of the TSA Pre✓™ lane, where it will be scanned to determine if they qualify for expedited screening .TSA uses a CAC card reader and computer connected to a Department of Defense database to verify the service member’s active duty status before they are cleared to receive TSA Pre✓™ screening benefits. Eligible service members do not need to be in uniform to be considered for TSA Pre✓™.
From BWI's website:
TSA Pre✓™ for Active Duty Military
Active duty service members in the U.S. Armed Forces are eligible to participate in TSA Pre✓™ at BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport. TSA Pre✓™ checkpoint locations for active duty military are at Concourse A (starting November 13, 2013), Concourse C (starting November 5, 2013) and Concourse D. Eligible service members do not need to be in uniform to be considered for TSA Pre✓™.
Active duty members of the military can present their Common Access Cards (CAC) to a TSA officer in front of the TSA Pre✓™ lane, where it will be scanned to determine if they qualify for expedited screening .TSA uses a CAC card reader and computer connected to a Department of Defense database to verify the service member’s active duty status before they are cleared to receive TSA Pre✓™ screening benefits. Eligible service members do not need to be in uniform to be considered for TSA Pre✓™.
Wait; I think I know....
The DoD complained about active duty in uniform being treated differently than active duty not in uniform. So, Pissy said, "Fine. Your people can do Precheck when not in uniform if you give us access to your data base." Hagel, like so many FFers, bought into the Precheck extortion on behalf of the entire U.S. Uniformed Services.
Nov 4, 2013, 6:39 pm
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This is a bit of an aside but I am curious as to what they mean by "active". Do they mean any member of the seven US uniformed services with a CAC or do active Nat Guard and reservists get screwed (as always)?
What does active mean to them?
To OP is your CAC uniformed services or USG civilian?
What does active mean to them?
To OP is your CAC uniformed services or USG civilian?
Nov 4, 2013, 6:49 pm
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Wow -- How did the DoD ever agree to this?
Wait; I think I know....
The DoD complained about active duty in uniform being treated differently than active duty not in uniform. So, Pissy said, "Fine. Your people can do Precheck when not in uniform if you give us access to your data base." Hagel, like so many FFers, bought into the Precheck extortion on behalf of the entire U.S. Uniformed Services.
Wait; I think I know....
The DoD complained about active duty in uniform being treated differently than active duty not in uniform. So, Pissy said, "Fine. Your people can do Precheck when not in uniform if you give us access to your data base." Hagel, like so many FFers, bought into the Precheck extortion on behalf of the entire U.S. Uniformed Services.
And, it's entirely voluntary on the CAC holder's part. If you don't want your picture pulled up and your status verified, you can always go through the kettle line.
Nov 4, 2013, 6:53 pm
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This is a bit of an aside but I am curious as to what they mean by "active". Do they mean any member of the seven US uniformed services with a CAC or do active Nat Guard and reservists get screwed (as always)?
What does active mean to them?
To OP is your CAC uniformed services or USG civilian?
What does active mean to them?
To OP is your CAC uniformed services or USG civilian?
Q. Are all members of the military eligible to participate?
A. At this time, active duty members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and Coast Guard, as well as active drilling members of the National Guard and Reserve, who are issued CAC IDs, are eligible to participate in TSA Pre✓™.
Nov 5, 2013, 4:38 am
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Nov 5, 2013, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
Wow -- How did the DoD ever agree to this?
Wait; I think I know....
The DoD complained about active duty in uniform being treated differently than active duty not in uniform. So, Pissy said, "Fine. Your people can do Precheck when not in uniform if you give us access to your data base." Hagel, like so many FFers, bought into the Precheck extortion on behalf of the entire U.S. Uniformed Services.
"Allowed"? DOD asked and got.
And, it's entirely voluntary on the CAC holder's part. If you don't want your picture pulled up and your status verified, you can always go through the kettle line.
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
Wow -- How did the DoD ever agree to this?
Wait; I think I know....
The DoD complained about active duty in uniform being treated differently than active duty not in uniform. So, Pissy said, "Fine. Your people can do Precheck when not in uniform if you give us access to your data base." Hagel, like so many FFers, bought into the Precheck extortion on behalf of the entire U.S. Uniformed Services.
"Allowed"? DOD asked and got.
And, it's entirely voluntary on the CAC holder's part. If you don't want your picture pulled up and your status verified, you can always go through the kettle line.
Nov 5, 2013, 6:54 am
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This is a bit of an aside but I am curious as to what they mean by "active". Do they mean any member of the seven US uniformed services with a CAC or do active Nat Guard and reservists get screwed (as always)?
What does active mean to them?
To OP is your CAC uniformed services or USG civilian?
What does active mean to them?
To OP is your CAC uniformed services or USG civilian?
Nov 5, 2013, 6:57 am
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This is a bit of an aside but I am curious as to what they mean by "active". Do they mean any member of the seven US uniformed services with a CAC or do active Nat Guard and reservists get screwed (as always)?
What does active mean to them?
To OP is your CAC uniformed services or USG civilian?
What does active mean to them?
To OP is your CAC uniformed services or USG civilian?
Nov 5, 2013, 7:12 am
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According to BWI's website, TSA does a look up on your CAC to determine active duty status.
From BWI's website:
TSA Pre✓™ for Active Duty Military
Active duty service members in the U.S. Armed Forces are eligible to participate in TSA Pre✓™ at BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport. TSA Pre✓™ checkpoint locations for active duty military are at Concourse A (starting November 13, 2013), Concourse C (starting November 5, 2013) and Concourse D. Eligible service members do not need to be in uniform to be considered for TSA Pre✓™.
Active duty members of the military can present their Common Access Cards (CAC) to a TSA officer in front of the TSA Pre✓™ lane, where it will be scanned to determine if they qualify for expedited screening .TSA uses a CAC card reader and computer connected to a Department of Defense database to verify the service member’s active duty status before they are cleared to receive TSA Pre✓™ screening benefits. Eligible service members do not need to be in uniform to be considered for TSA Pre✓™.
From BWI's website:
TSA Pre✓™ for Active Duty Military
Active duty service members in the U.S. Armed Forces are eligible to participate in TSA Pre✓™ at BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport. TSA Pre✓™ checkpoint locations for active duty military are at Concourse A (starting November 13, 2013), Concourse C (starting November 5, 2013) and Concourse D. Eligible service members do not need to be in uniform to be considered for TSA Pre✓™.
Active duty members of the military can present their Common Access Cards (CAC) to a TSA officer in front of the TSA Pre✓™ lane, where it will be scanned to determine if they qualify for expedited screening .TSA uses a CAC card reader and computer connected to a Department of Defense database to verify the service member’s active duty status before they are cleared to receive TSA Pre✓™ screening benefits. Eligible service members do not need to be in uniform to be considered for TSA Pre✓™.
Secondly, the agency offered PreCheck by sending our information over to TSA. However, there were warnings about doing it and it was discouraged.
I had always used my CAC in the past as it had a limited amount of information about me on it. Now, I'm just going to use my passport.
Nov 5, 2013, 7:15 am
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The last thing I want is TSA looking me up in a database.
Nov 5, 2013, 7:15 am
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Nov 5, 2013, 7:45 am
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Problem is I'm not military, though I work for a DoD agency as a contractor. I got the standard harassment screening.
Secondly, the agency offered PreCheck by sending our information over to TSA. However, there were warnings about doing it and it was discouraged.
I had always used my CAC in the past as it had a limited amount of information about me on it. Now, I'm just going to use my passport.
Secondly, the agency offered PreCheck by sending our information over to TSA. However, there were warnings about doing it and it was discouraged.
I had always used my CAC in the past as it had a limited amount of information about me on it. Now, I'm just going to use my passport.
Nov 5, 2013, 7:48 am
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