German passports to allow M, F, or X sex.
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US litigation to try to push the USG to come to a more sensible position:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...r-than-m-or-f/
The government shouldn't require that free persons applying for a passport lie on an application in order to have a chance to get a passport to which they are otherwise entitled.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...r-than-m-or-f/
The government shouldn't require that free persons applying for a passport lie on an application in order to have a chance to get a passport to which they are otherwise entitled.
https://www.washingtonblade.com/2016...enial-lawsuit/
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Intersex and transgender
These 2 terms mean different things but have shared implications for gender markers on passports etc. I agree with other posters that the binary options are restrictive and should be removed altogether. Some hotels don't have a title (Mr, Mrs, Ms etc) any more on bookings, but they seem to have one on their screens! This is a bit anomalous!
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Australia, India and New Zealand are among the countries that issue passports without gender markers. The International Civil Aviation Organization, a U.N. agency that establishes standards for international travel documents, recognizes the X gender marker.
But Germany is not alone, whether or not it was the first.
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According to the article, the State Department will only issue passports with a M or F. The US does not permit X to be used even though international standards allow it.
The US is not the only country applying a similar policy, but that does not make it correct, or defensible.
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The US is not the only country applying a similar policy, but that does not make it correct, or defensible.
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According to the article, the State Department will only issue passports with a M or F. The US does not permit X to be used even though international standards allow it.
The US is not the only country applying a similar policy, but that does not make it correct, or defensible.
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The US is not the only country applying a similar policy, but that does not make it correct, or defensible.
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The US State Department some years back (under the prior US Secretary of State) made it easier for people to change the sex marker on passports between M and F, but we're still in a situation where people are pushed into binary categories when diversity of human beings is normal and that includes not everyone fitting into false binary categories.
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The US State Department only permits M or F on US passports, thus someone sued in order to have an X option.
The US State Department some years back (under the prior US Secretary of State) made it easier for people to change the sex marker on passports between M and F, but we're still in a situation where people are pushed into binary categories when diversity of human beings is normal and that includes not everyone fitting into false binary categories.
The US State Department some years back (under the prior US Secretary of State) made it easier for people to change the sex marker on passports between M and F, but we're still in a situation where people are pushed into binary categories when diversity of human beings is normal and that includes not everyone fitting into false binary categories.
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Pakistan is currently issuing passports with X as a possible reference in the sex field designator. Prior to this year, the only options on Pakistani passports were M or F.
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The US State Department only permits M or F on US passports, thus someone sued in order to have an X option.
The US State Department some years back (under the prior US Secretary of State) made it easier for people to change the sex marker on passports between M and F, but we're still in a situation where people are pushed into binary categories when diversity of human beings is normal and that includes not everyone fitting into false binary categories.
The US State Department some years back (under the prior US Secretary of State) made it easier for people to change the sex marker on passports between M and F, but we're still in a situation where people are pushed into binary categories when diversity of human beings is normal and that includes not everyone fitting into false binary categories.
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I don't recall there being any State Department fee beyond that which was applicable even for first time passport applicants who have neither sought any sex change on documents nor presented documentation about a sex change. I don't recall any publication of such a distinct State Department fee, hefty or otherwise, and I've seen long lists of fees for a whole variety of services offered by State.
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Canada allowing X in the sex field on Canadian passports:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/w...assport-x.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/w...assport-x.html
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From the article which was linked above today:
I'm not sure if the article is claiming that the passports don't allow for an X in the sex field on them, or if the article is claiming they don't have a sex field on them.
But Germany is not alone, whether or not it was the first.
I'm not sure if the article is claiming that the passports don't allow for an X in the sex field on them, or if the article is claiming they don't have a sex field on them.
But Germany is not alone, whether or not it was the first.
Of course if it's X you're basically screwed using the US Visa Waiver Program as ESTA only allows "Male" or "Female" and all details must match the passport.