Updated thoughts on the "Trusted" traveler program
Sep 30, 2011, 5:15 pm
#61
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Wow!
Sep 30, 2011, 6:51 pm
#62
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Think about it: That is more screening than those servicing the planes get.
For a program like that, I'd submit my personal info and pay a fee. Otherwise, forget it!
Sep 30, 2011, 7:05 pm
#63
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Location: Northern VA
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How about this for a radical idea? No screening other than putting bags through the x-ray for "trusted travelers"?
Think about it: That is more screening than those servicing the planes get.
For a program like that, I'd submit my personal info and pay a fee. Otherwise, forget it!
Think about it: That is more screening than those servicing the planes get.
For a program like that, I'd submit my personal info and pay a fee. Otherwise, forget it!
Oct 3, 2011, 8:12 am
#64
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Detroit; Formerly Dubai
Posts: 3,652
I am listening to all the objections to the NOS and was thinking why I didn't care then it kind of hit me. I went to a private boarding school when they had communal showers, gym was strictly military style showers, college was no better, I had a job working in a prison in my early years, my first health club was men only (e.g. nude swimming and whirlpools). My current one (Life Time Fitness) you're exposed most of the time in the locker room. I've never had a hard time time taking it off at nude beaches and at 50 I don't think many people are looking at my middle age physique anymore.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
Oct 3, 2011, 8:27 am
#65
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I am listening to all the objections to the NOS and was thinking why I didn't care then it kind of hit me. I went to a private boarding school when they had communal showers, gym was strictly military style showers, college was no better, I had a job working in a prison in my early years, my first health club was men only (e.g. nude swimming and whirlpools). My current one (Life Time Fitness) you're exposed most of the time in the locker room. I've never had a hard time time taking it off at nude beaches and at 50 I don't think many people are looking at my middle age physique anymore.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
Oct 3, 2011, 4:51 pm
#66
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Oct 3, 2011, 5:45 pm
#67
Join Date: Sep 2009
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How about this for a radical idea? No screening other than putting bags through the x-ray for "trusted travelers"?
Think about it: That is more screening than those servicing the planes get.
For a program like that, I'd submit my personal info and pay a fee. Otherwise, forget it!
Think about it: That is more screening than those servicing the planes get.
For a program like that, I'd submit my personal info and pay a fee. Otherwise, forget it!
Oct 3, 2011, 8:08 pm
#68
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Oct 4, 2011, 1:44 pm
#69
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I am listening to all the objections to the NOS and was thinking why I didn't care then it kind of hit me. I went to a private boarding school when they had communal showers, gym was strictly military style showers, college was no better, I had a job working in a prison in my early years, my first health club was men only (e.g. nude swimming and whirlpools). My current one (Life Time Fitness) you're exposed most of the time in the locker room. I've never had a hard time time taking it off at nude beaches and at 50 I don't think many people are looking at my middle age physique anymore.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
Oct 4, 2011, 1:46 pm
#70
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I am listening to all the objections to the NOS and was thinking why I didn't care then it kind of hit me. I went to a private boarding school when they had communal showers, gym was strictly military style showers, college was no better, I had a job working in a prison in my early years, my first health club was men only (e.g. nude swimming and whirlpools). My current one (Life Time Fitness) you're exposed most of the time in the locker room. I've never had a hard time time taking it off at nude beaches and at 50 I don't think many people are looking at my middle age physique anymore.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
Oct 4, 2011, 1:53 pm
#71
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,967
I am listening to all the objections to the NOS and was thinking why I didn't care then it kind of hit me. I went to a private boarding school when they had communal showers, gym was strictly military style showers, college was no better, I had a job working in a prison in my early years, my first health club was men only (e.g. nude swimming and whirlpools). My current one (Life Time Fitness) you're exposed most of the time in the locker room. I've never had a hard time time taking it off at nude beaches and at 50 I don't think many people are looking at my middle age physique anymore.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
The difference is that choosing to be nude under FKK is far different than having the government force one to go through a WBI.
People practiced FKK because it gave them the power to make their own decisions, and not have their government make it for them. I find it ironic that now the tables are somewhat turned and it is a different government restricting the rights.
And yes, abosolutely, I am a product of my environment.
Oct 4, 2011, 3:06 pm
#72
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The difference is that choosing to be nude under FKK is far different than having the government force one to go through a WBI.
Oct 4, 2011, 3:09 pm
#73
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The link you posted by the way doesn't lead to an article, just a blog with a few lines of text and a broken link.
Oct 4, 2011, 3:16 pm
#74
Join Date: Sep 2009
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I am listening to all the objections to the NOS and was thinking why I didn't care then it kind of hit me. I went to a private boarding school when they had communal showers, gym was strictly military style showers, college was no better, I had a job working in a prison in my early years, my first health club was men only (e.g. nude swimming and whirlpools). My current one (Life Time Fitness) you're exposed most of the time in the locker room. I've never had a hard time time taking it off at nude beaches and at 50 I don't think many people are looking at my middle age physique anymore.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
I guess you are a product of your environment.
Would 6 to 12 people have surrounded you and threatened you with a fine or arrest had you not wanted to get naked, or take a shower infront of other people, or could you have just left without a confrontation had you not wanted to do that?
You can't just leave the airport with out being surrounded by people who want to know why you are interferring with the screening process by refusing if you decide these new screening procedures are more than you can deal with because of being a breast cancer survivor, a survivor of rape or child molestation, or moral issues due to how one is raised.
Last edited by Lara21; Oct 4, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Oct 4, 2011, 4:21 pm
#75
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The article was too old to be kept on the newspaper's site. I recall reading it at the time. The blog captured the most interesting parts, which is why I posted it.