CX Interline baggage Agreement
#31
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Posts: 50
I am flying CX next year AKL-HKG connecting to CX HKG-LHR then BA LHR-GLA.
All on one ticket with no stopovers. Just a couple of hours in transit each time.
Have gone this way several times over the years with CX or Qantas then BA up to Glasgow.
Every time I have just had the bags interlined AKL right through to GLA. No problems. Great system. Through immigration only at LHR. Get off the plane at GLA, get my bags at the separate luggage area and off.
This time CX staffer in Auckland tells me the baggage needs to be collected in LHR as this is the "first point of entry to UK"
I cannot accept this especially as GLA is a fully fledged international airport.
Have it in my head some EU rule that bags are customs cleared at the final destination.
Have things changed or have I been misinformed?
Cheers.
All on one ticket with no stopovers. Just a couple of hours in transit each time.
Have gone this way several times over the years with CX or Qantas then BA up to Glasgow.
Every time I have just had the bags interlined AKL right through to GLA. No problems. Great system. Through immigration only at LHR. Get off the plane at GLA, get my bags at the separate luggage area and off.
This time CX staffer in Auckland tells me the baggage needs to be collected in LHR as this is the "first point of entry to UK"
I cannot accept this especially as GLA is a fully fledged international airport.
Have it in my head some EU rule that bags are customs cleared at the final destination.
Have things changed or have I been misinformed?
Cheers.
#32
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This time CX staffer in Auckland tells me the baggage needs to be collected in LHR as this is the "first point of entry to UK"
I cannot accept this especially as GLA is a fully fledged international airport.
Have it in my head some EU rule that bags are customs cleared at the final destination.
Have things changed or have I been misinformed?
I cannot accept this especially as GLA is a fully fledged international airport.
Have it in my head some EU rule that bags are customs cleared at the final destination.
Have things changed or have I been misinformed?
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.2/Diamond - TIMATIC: Country Information: Customs]
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[Customs Information] United Kingdom (GB)
Baggage Clearance:
- If Aberdeen (ABZ) is the first airport of entry, baggage is
cleared at Aberdeen. Baggage of transit passengers with a
final destination of Heathrow (LHR) or Gatwick (LGW) will be
cleared at the first airport of entry. In all other cases,
baggage is cleared at the airport of final destination or at
an International Community Airport (ICA) in the United
Kingdom, provided it is labeled accordingly.
- Exempt:
1. Baggage of transit passengers with a destination outside
the United Kingdom, provided it is labeled to that
destination;
2. Baggage of passengers who embarked in another EU Member
State [[TIRGL/EEU]] will not be cleared at all (use Blue
Exit).
Import:
- Free import to passengers arriving with goods purchased
within the EU [[TIRGL/EEU]] which are for personal use only.
Goods obtained duty and tax paid in the EU; unlimited,
provided being for personal use, which includes personal
consumption and gifts for family and friends.
However, if bringing large quantities of alcohol or tobacco
and stopped by Customs, questions may be asked regarding
journey, purchases and purpose of the goods, particularly if
the amounts exceed:
1. tobacco products:
- 800 cigarettes;
- 400 cigarillos (max. 3 g each);
- 200 cigars;
- 1 kg of pipe or cigarette tobacco;
2. alcoholic beverages:
- 10 litres of spirits over 22%;
- 20 litres of alcoholic beverages less than 22%;
- 90 litres of wine (though no more than 60 litres of
sparkling wine);
- 110 litres of beer.
- Free import to passengers arriving from non-EU Member States
(including the Canary Islands, Channel Islands, Gibraltar
and similar territories):
1. tobacco products, for passengers 17 years of age and
over:
- 200 cigarettes; or
- 100 cigarillos (max. 3g each); or
- 50 cigars; or
- 250 g tobacco; or
- a proportional assortment;
2. alcoholic beverages, for passengers 17 years of age and
older:
- 1 litre of spirits over 22% volume, or non-denatured
ethyl alcohol with more than 80% volume; or
- 2 litres of spirits or aperitifs made of wine or similar
beverages less than 22% volume, or sparkling wines or
liqueur wines; or
- a proportional mix of these products; and in addition
- 4 litres of wine; and
- 16 litres of beer;
3. other goods (for air travellers) up to a value of GBP
390.-.
- Prescription Drugs: Passengers carrying medication upon
entry to the UK do not have to declare them by entering a
red channel or present their licence, but should be able to
produce this if questioned.
- Prohibited:
Anabolic steroids and certain other performance-enhancing
drugs, in the form of medicinal products, are prohibited
unless they are imported by an individual for
self-administration. For further details please consult:
[[http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/drugs/drug-law/]].
- Products of animal origin, not originating from an EU Member
State [[TIRGL/EEU,]] Andorra, Liechtenstein, Norway, San
Marino or Switzerland, are not permitted to be imported into
an EU Member State, with the exception of limited amounts
from Andorra, Faroe Isl., Greenland, Iceland and small
amounts of specific products from other countries.
- For full details, please see [[TIRULES/R65]] or refer to the
website of the European Union, [[http://europa.eu/]].
Arms and Ammunition:
- Import of firearms (incl. sporting guns and shotguns) and
ammunition must be supported by an appropriate
license/certificate plus a permit. This permit can be
obtained at the relevant police authority by a sponsor who
is resident in the UK. The sponsor may be an individual or a
representative of a club, shooting syndicate, country estate
or national shooting organization. The completed permit will
be sent to the sponsor who can forward it to the visitor.
The sponsor may also produce the permit at the time and
place of the importation by arrangement.
If a visitor has no permit, then the weapon will be detained
by UK Border Agency until a permit is produced.
Weapons taken from passengers prior to embarkation for safe
stowage in the aircraft must be returned to the passenger by
a responsible officer of the airline or handling agent in
the presence of an officer of UK Border Agency in the red
channel of the arrival customs hall.
Furthermore such items must be clearly identified so that
they can be presented to UK Border Agency for clearance in
accordance with the prevailing instructions.
The use of a sticker/label will ensure that all firearms and
ammunition therefore are quickly and easily identified on
arrival, thus obviating difficulties with customs clearance.
Passengers are allowed to tranship sporting guns and
ammunitions via the United Kingdom under the open general
transhipment licence subject to following:
- weapons must travel with passenger as checked personal
baggage;
- if there is a stopover in the United Kingdom, weapons must
be declared and must not remain in the United Kingdom longer
than 30 days.
However, passengers are not permitted to transit through the
United Kingdom with checked baggage containing sporting guns
to the following destinations:
Iran, Iraq, Liberia, Libya, Macedonia (FYROM), Montenegro,
Myanmar, Rwanda, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Somali and Sudan.
Important: All handguns are restricted under UK law and may
only be carried on BA aircraft with prior permission of the
Security Duty Manager. Small arms ammunition for sporting
purposes shall not be carried in passenger's baggage in
quantities exceeding 5 kg per person.
Additional Information:
- Prohibited: indecent or obscene books, films or videos.
- Foodstuffs (for personal consumption):
the following may be brought into the UK if arriving from:
- an EU Member State [[TIRGL/EEU]] , Andorra, the Canary
Islands, the Isle of Man, Norway and San Marino:
meat and meat products, milk and dairy products (not
applicable to unpasteurised milk and its products) and other
animal products (e.g. fish, shellfish, honey, eggs) provided
obtained in the EU and free from disease;
- the Faroe Islands, Greenland, Iceland, Liechtenstein and
Switzerland:
5kg max combined total weight of meat and meat products,
milk and dairy products (not applicable to unpasteurised
milk and its products) provided obtained these countries and
free from disease;
generally 1kg (rules vary per product/country) of other
animal products (e.g. fish, shellfish, honey, eggs) provided
free from disease;
-all other countries:
generally 1kg (rules vary per product/country) of other
animal products (e.g. fish, shellfish, honey, eggs) provided
free from disease. No meat and meat products, milk and dairy
products are permitted.
All travelers may carry a limited quantity of powdered
infant milk, infant food and special foods required for
medical reasons, provided items do not require refrigeration
prior to opening and must be in commercially branded
packaging, unopened unless in current use.
For full details and information on specific food products,
consult [[http://www.defra.gov.uk]] or tel: 08459 335577 (within the
UK) or +44 20 7238 6951
- Fruit, vegetables, plants and plant products (all for
personal use and must be free from signs of pests and
diseases),
the following may be brought into the UK if arriving from:
- an EU Member State [[TIRGL/EEU]] , Andorra, the Canary
Islands, the Isle of Man and San Marino:
all plants or plant products provided they were grown in
these countries;
- other specific European Member States and other countries
in the Euro-Mediterranean area and all other countries:
a limited amount of certain fruits, vegetables, plants and
plant products, with restrictions on many others.
For full details and information on specific food products,
consult [[http://www.defra.gov.uk]] or tel: +44 1904 455174
- Applicable in Northern Ireland:
Passengers having visited farms or being in contact with
farm animals should contact the Imports Inspectors on
arrival.
All animals are subject to pre-importation conditions and
licence.
Import of all kinds of meat or poultry meat only allowed if:
a.packed in tins or sealed glass containers provided these
are capable of storage for extended periods; or
b.accompanied by a veterinary certification;
c.declared upon arrival to the Department of Agriculture
(Northern Ireland) Imports Inspectors.
Crew Members:
- Same regulations as for passengers apply.
Pets:
- Pet cats, dogs (incl. assistance dogs) and ferrets enterring
the UK must meets the rules of Regulation (EC) No. 998/2003
[[TIRULES/R60]]. This regulation is operated in the UK as the
Pets Travel Scheme (PETS).
At present, carriers on certain routes are participating in
PETS to transport pets. For detailed information on
carriers/routes, updates and further information about pet
entry to the UK please consult the UK Government website at
[[http://www.defra.gov.uk]]. Passengers are also advised to
contact their carrier for more information.
Pet cats, dogs and ferrets, which do not comply with the
Regulation are subject to rabies control measures
(quarantine). They must not be shipped as baggage (SEE NOTE
14148) and must be carried in the hold of the aircraft in a
"nose and paw proof crate or container" as manifested cargo
(SEE NOTE 14149)covered by an Air Waybill. Prior advice by
telex or other suitable means to the Cargo Department of the
airline concerned at the station of arrival is mandatory
prior to shipment. It should quote license number shown on
"boarding document", name of shipper and owner, species of
animal, date and flight of arrival and departure.
Cats, dogs and ferrets must be accompanied by a "boarding
document as an indication that the Department for
Environment, Food and Rural Affairs has issued an import
licence. When they enter UK , they will be vaccinated
against rabies. This may be waived if they have already been
vaccinated.
Transit: Pets arriving and departing from the same airport
must do so within 48 hours or be transferred to an official
quarantine by an authorized carrying agent. Arrangements
must be made prior to arrival. Pets may not pass the customs
control. Pets arriving and departing from different airports
within 48 hours require a transit license from the Animal
Health, Specialist Service Centre for Imports. The pet must
be transported from the point of landing to the point of
export by an authorized carrying agent.
Prohibited: all imports of birds and bird eggs are subject
to restrictions for reasons of animal health and some are
also restricted under the Convention on International Trade
in Endangered Species (CITES). Import of five or less pet
birds may be permitted subject to certain conditions. For
information regarding these restrictions and permitted
imports please contact respectively the Specialist Service
Centre for Imports
([[http://animalhealth.defra.gov.uk/about/contact-us/tradeimpo]]
rts.html) and the Wildlife Licensing and Registration
Service
([[http://animalhealth.defra.gov.uk/about/contact-us/wildlife]].
html). The Specialist Service Centre for Export advise on
all movements of performing animals
([[http://animalhealth.defra.gov.uk/about/contact-us/tradeexpo]]
rts.html)..
This prohibition also applies to transhipments via any
airport in the United Kingdom.
However, above is not applicable if a specific dispensation
for individual cargo consignments covered by an Air Waybill
has been obtained from the Animal Health , Specialist
Service Centre for Imports, Chelmsford. Tel +44 (0) 1245
454860.
Warning: In case of illegal imports into Great Britain the
owner may be fined up to GBP 5,000.- (or more if convicted
in the Crown Court) and/or imprisoned and the animal
destroyed. An owner who knowingly uses false documentation
to transport a pet into Great Britain can also be fined up
to GBP 5,000.- and/or imprisoned. An airline which lands an
illegal pet in Great Britain (i.e., one that fails to meet
the entry rules and does not have an import licence) may be
fined up to GBP 5,000.- (or more if convicted in the Crown
Court). Note: different fines may apply in Northern Ireland.
NOTE 14148: With approval of the carrier trade dogs may
enter the UK provided following conditions (Balai directive
92/65/EEC) have been met:
-- dogs must be from registered establishments, must have
microchip identification, rabis vaccination and blood
tests. The dog has to be available for checking by a
Veterinary Officer within 24 hours after arrival in the UK.
NOTE 14149: A red "rabies control" label (sent to all
applicants for licenses) should be affixed to the
crate/cage or container.
CHECK [[TINEWS/N1]] - RUSSIAN FED.: NATIONALS OF KOREA (REP.)
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#34
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: Qantas FF Bronze
Posts: 50
Thanks KVS and SXC for your prompt and helpful replies. Problem solved. That copy of TIMATIC (good thinking) will be passed onto the unbeliever.
Now I only need to search for a cure for jetlag. Long trip with no breaks.
Cheers
John
Now I only need to search for a cure for jetlag. Long trip with no breaks.
Cheers
John
#36
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 241
OK. Have tried my best to search the net for the answer, but nothing so far. Trying to book a ticket from Hong Kong to Kuwait, and one of the website is showing me a routing of HKG - DXB on Cathay, and DXB - KWI on Emirates.
Question is, can i check my baggage all the way through? I know we have reached a stage where most airlines have baggage agreements, but you still can never be sure.
Question is, can i check my baggage all the way through? I know we have reached a stage where most airlines have baggage agreements, but you still can never be sure.
#37
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 8,315
I'm interlining between CX F and SQ J in SIN (onward to MLE). The connection is overnight, about 21 hours total. Any issues associated with the long time/overnight between flights?
#38
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 21
Jetblue interline agreement?
Everywhere on the internet says in Summer 2012, CX and B6/Jetblue entered into an interline agreement. However, phone conversation with agent seemed to know nothing about it. Very annoying. Really frustrated about the thought of calling again.
Anyone have experience with baggage checked to JetBlue from a Cathay Pacific flight, not on the same ticket?
Anyone have experience with baggage checked to JetBlue from a Cathay Pacific flight, not on the same ticket?
#39
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 6,437
Everywhere on the internet says in Summer 2012, CX and B6/Jetblue entered into an interline agreement. However, phone conversation with agent seemed to know nothing about it. Very annoying. Really frustrated about the thought of calling again.
Anyone have experience with baggage checked to JetBlue from a Cathay Pacific flight, not on the same ticket?
Anyone have experience with baggage checked to JetBlue from a Cathay Pacific flight, not on the same ticket?
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#40
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: New York City
Posts: 801
Interline from CX F to SQ R in HKG?
I'm flying JFK-HKG on CX 841 in F arriving 14:05.
I'd like to take SQ 861 in R from HKG-SIN departing at 15:20.
Given my 1:15 connection, I imagine the only way this will work is if I can get CX to interline my baggage from JFK straight to SIN.
According to KVS, CX and SQ do have an interline agreement, and I do meet MCT (which at HKG is 60 mins for I:I I believe).
If I am on two separate tickets (JFK-HKG and HKG-SIN) will CX check my bags through at JFK to SIN?
Thoughts?
I'd like to take SQ 861 in R from HKG-SIN departing at 15:20.
Given my 1:15 connection, I imagine the only way this will work is if I can get CX to interline my baggage from JFK straight to SIN.
According to KVS, CX and SQ do have an interline agreement, and I do meet MCT (which at HKG is 60 mins for I:I I believe).
If I am on two separate tickets (JFK-HKG and HKG-SIN) will CX check my bags through at JFK to SIN?
Thoughts?
#41
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NYC/SIN
Programs: CX DM, SQ KF
Posts: 2,171
CX Interline baggage Agreement
Should work, though the BA agents at JFK checking you in might need a bit of polite but firm prodding.
A couple of year's back they took 10mins to figure out how to tag bags and check my bags through to a separate CX ticket on to SIN.
A couple of year's back they took 10mins to figure out how to tag bags and check my bags through to a separate CX ticket on to SIN.
#42
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: New York City
Posts: 801
Hopefully they won't seize at the prospect of tagging bags on two separate, non-partner carriers on two separate tickets, JFK-HKG-SIN.
#43
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#44
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Bumping this thread up. Flying MU CTS - PVG with the intent of connecting to PVG - HKG (this PVG - HKG is a tie-in to an HKG - ORD - RDU award ticket).
I need to add the PVG - HKG to my award reservation and I'm seeing options on KA that depart at 6:55, 7:20, and 8:30. I'd prefer to take the 6:55 because its on an A333 however I land at PVG at 3:50. CX lists an MCT of 150 minutes (which this obviously does not meet) so I'm curious of two things:
1) Does CX/KA have an interline with MU
and if so:
2) Are they likely to tag it through to HKG (overnighting in HKG) with a 125 connection time
My alternatives are to either:
1) Take the 7:20 or 8:30 (on A321s)
or
2) Spend the night in PVG and take the first PVG - HKG flight (CX a340) but I'd rather avoid that since the next day I'm flying HKG - ORD and I've never been to HKG so I would like to spend a few hours checking it out before getting on HKG - ORD
I need to add the PVG - HKG to my award reservation and I'm seeing options on KA that depart at 6:55, 7:20, and 8:30. I'd prefer to take the 6:55 because its on an A333 however I land at PVG at 3:50. CX lists an MCT of 150 minutes (which this obviously does not meet) so I'm curious of two things:
1) Does CX/KA have an interline with MU
and if so:
2) Are they likely to tag it through to HKG (overnighting in HKG) with a 125 connection time
My alternatives are to either:
1) Take the 7:20 or 8:30 (on A321s)
or
2) Spend the night in PVG and take the first PVG - HKG flight (CX a340) but I'd rather avoid that since the next day I'm flying HKG - ORD and I've never been to HKG so I would like to spend a few hours checking it out before getting on HKG - ORD
#45
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: New York City
Posts: 801
2) Even if they would, I'm pretty sure your ticketing carrier will not issue an illegal ticket, which does not meet MCT.