LHR to HKG £85 upgrade from Y to Y+ worth it?
Dec 18, 2014, 2:06 pm
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They are probably telling the truth on the tax. I had to pay about the same upgrading from Y to business on Delta MAN-ATL (using an upgrade certificate), and Delta told me the same story. Sucked but the difference in cabin made it worth it to me.
Don’t know the difference between Y and Y+ on CA though. YMMV.
Don’t know the difference between Y and Y+ on CA though. YMMV.
Dec 18, 2014, 3:33 pm
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That's a steal! Considering they're just charging you excess APD too.
So was just wondering: do tax differences etc encourage the carrier not to op-up from certain outports? Or are those fees waived in involuntary cases...
So was just wondering: do tax differences etc encourage the carrier not to op-up from certain outports? Or are those fees waived in involuntary cases...
Dec 18, 2014, 8:12 pm
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Yes - there's a specific exemption for involuntary upgrades.
Dec 20, 2014, 5:19 am
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Sorry you missed out. At the end of the day the gate staff don't care who gets what they just have to solve a problem of Y being oversold. If you don't accept at once they will probably treat is a refusal. The lesson with an offer like that is - take it!
Dec 22, 2014, 1:44 am
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Dec 23, 2014, 4:36 am
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There will be additional UK APD tax to pay from Y to Y+ on an exUK flights.
For Y LHR-HKG APD is £85 (band C rate)
For Y+ LHR-HKG APD is £170 (band C rate)
So the difference in APD from Y to Y+ for LHR-HKG is £85, and what CX have told is correct - for a paid upgrade they were charging you the extra APD only. Obviously if you had an OpUp you would not pay anything.
Note these are the current rates from 1 April 2014 to 31 March 2015. From 1 April 2015 the APD rates will be £71 for Y and £142 for Y+.
For Y LHR-HKG APD is £85 (band C rate)
For Y+ LHR-HKG APD is £170 (band C rate)
So the difference in APD from Y to Y+ for LHR-HKG is £85, and what CX have told is correct - for a paid upgrade they were charging you the extra APD only. Obviously if you had an OpUp you would not pay anything.
Note these are the current rates from 1 April 2014 to 31 March 2015. From 1 April 2015 the APD rates will be £71 for Y and £142 for Y+.
Dec 23, 2014, 4:44 am
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I heard they'd "make" you psy the 85gbp by offering to people saying ure just paying for tax. Some would eventually take the bait
I heard they'd "make" you psy the 85gbp by offering to people saying ure just paying for tax. Some would eventually take the bait
Dec 23, 2014, 4:52 am
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I heard they'd "make" you psy the 85gbp by offering to people saying ure just paying for tax. Some would eventually take the bait
I heard they'd "make" you psy the 85gbp by offering to people saying ure just paying for tax. Some would eventually take the bait
For any paid upgrades I would understand the extra APD would be payable to HMRC. However, does the airline have to pay the extra APD to HMRC if they do the upgrade as an OpUp or is there an exemption for the airline under those circumstances?