New Customs Procedure for US to Canada connections at YYZ?
Feb 22, 2015, 9:22 am
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//downsides to never checking a bag 
Feb 22, 2015, 9:22 am
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The new pilot project refers to inbound from LAX into YYZ. Can't wait for it to be applied outright.
Feb 22, 2015, 9:28 am
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Well, I believe the program has expanded beyond LAX-YYZ-domestic flights - signs suggest SFO and SAN as well as LAX - can someone confirm that.
The concierge was also wondering if SEA has been added to the pilot program.
To Ben Lipsey or Andrew Yiu or anyone else from AC, perhaps you can confirm my statement? Of note, I do not see any notice of this pilot program on the AC.com web site.
The concierge was also wondering if SEA has been added to the pilot program.
To Ben Lipsey or Andrew Yiu or anyone else from AC, perhaps you can confirm my statement? Of note, I do not see any notice of this pilot program on the AC.com web site.
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Feb 22, 2015, 9:41 am
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Well, I believe the program has expanded beyond LAX-YYZ-domestic flights - signs suggest SFO and SAN as well as LAX - can someone confirm that.
The concierge was also wondering if SEA has been added to the pilot program.
To Ben Lipsey or Andrew Yiu or anyone else from AC, perhaps you can confirm my statement? Of note, I do not see any notice of this pilot program on the AC.com web site.
The concierge was also wondering if SEA has been added to the pilot program.
To Ben Lipsey or Andrew Yiu or anyone else from AC, perhaps you can confirm my statement? Of note, I do not see any notice of this pilot program on the AC.com web site.
Feb 22, 2015, 10:00 am
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I would advertise it. I will tell you why.
If not advertised, then certain passengers (not reading those signs in the baggage hall), would be standing at the baggage carousels in vain. I would have done that last night (connecting from LAX to YOW via YYZ), if I had not been told that by the concierge.
The service director (flight attendant) on the LAX to YYZ plane mentioned that we need not pick up our bags - I actually thought I had misheard her statement and I thought what she actually said was that we do have to pick up our bags. I would suggest to AC if the service director on these flights does mention the policy of not having to pick up the bags, then he or she should clarify that this is a pilot project for those certain US west coast cities-YYZ-another Canadian city.
Even in your case, were you aware that this pilot program had expanded to include flights beyond those originating at LAX? If not, perhaps the next time you went from a non-LAX west coast US city to a Canadian city via YYZ, you might have made the same mistake at waiting for your bags at the baggage carousel (there would still be a baggage carousel assigned for that flight - as the bags would still come onto the baggage carousel for those passengers terminating their trip at YYZ).
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Feb 22, 2015, 10:19 am
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If this policy is eventually finalized, I wonder if the legal and practical connection time at YYZ from a transborder flight originating in a US city and connecting to an ongoing domestic flight, would be shortened.
Yesterday, with the help of the concierge and with the help of nexus and taking account we arrived at YYZ around midnight, it took 20 min to go from the gate of the arriving transborder flight, to the gate of the departing domestic flight.
Yesterday, with the help of the concierge and with the help of nexus and taking account we arrived at YYZ around midnight, it took 20 min to go from the gate of the arriving transborder flight, to the gate of the departing domestic flight.
Feb 22, 2015, 12:49 pm
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I would advertise it. I will tell you why.
If not advertised, then certain passengers (not reading those signs in the baggage hall), would be standing at the baggage carousels in vain. I would have done that last night (connecting from LAX to YOW via YYZ), if I had not been told that by the concierge.
The service director (flight attendant) on the LAX to YYZ plane mentioned that we need not pick up our bags - I actually thought I had misheard her statement and I thought what she actually said was that we do have to pick up our bags. I would suggest to AC if the service director on these flights does mention the policy of not having to pick up the bags, then he or she should clarify that this is a pilot project for those certain US west coast cities-YYZ-another Canadian city.
Even in your case, were you aware that this pilot program had expanded to include flights beyond those originating at LAX? If not, perhaps the next time you went from a non-LAX west coast US city to a Canadian city via YYZ, you might have made the same mistake at waiting for your bags at the baggage carousel (there would still be a baggage carousel assigned for that flight - as the bags would still come onto the baggage carousel for those passengers terminating their trip at YYZ).
If not advertised, then certain passengers (not reading those signs in the baggage hall), would be standing at the baggage carousels in vain. I would have done that last night (connecting from LAX to YOW via YYZ), if I had not been told that by the concierge.
The service director (flight attendant) on the LAX to YYZ plane mentioned that we need not pick up our bags - I actually thought I had misheard her statement and I thought what she actually said was that we do have to pick up our bags. I would suggest to AC if the service director on these flights does mention the policy of not having to pick up the bags, then he or she should clarify that this is a pilot project for those certain US west coast cities-YYZ-another Canadian city.
Even in your case, were you aware that this pilot program had expanded to include flights beyond those originating at LAX? If not, perhaps the next time you went from a non-LAX west coast US city to a Canadian city via YYZ, you might have made the same mistake at waiting for your bags at the baggage carousel (there would still be a baggage carousel assigned for that flight - as the bags would still come onto the baggage carousel for those passengers terminating their trip at YYZ).
(Aslo, did I see you commented on that earlier thread? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23619711-post10.html)
I understand your comment and it makes sense, but in all honesty, I think it would cost more confusion that help. Since is only from LAX-YYZ, many people would likely misread it and end up by-passing their luggage and getting in trouble with CSBP. Its a case of pick your poison.
Feb 22, 2015, 2:55 pm
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There is supposed to be signage as Andrews statement in the earlier thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23646533-post22.html
(Aslo, did I see you commented on that earlier thread? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23619711-post10.html)
I understand your comment and it makes sense, but in all honesty, I think it would cost more confusion that help. Since is only from LAX-YYZ, many people would likely misread it and end up by-passing their luggage and getting in trouble with CSBP. Its a case of pick your poison.
(Aslo, did I see you commented on that earlier thread? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23619711-post10.html)
I understand your comment and it makes sense, but in all honesty, I think it would cost more confusion that help. Since is only from LAX-YYZ, many people would likely misread it and end up by-passing their luggage and getting in trouble with CSBP. Its a case of pick your poison.
PS-I had forgotten all about the old thread, including the fact that I myself had asked a question about the program on that thread!
Feb 22, 2015, 3:01 pm
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And no worries. I just did a double-take when looking for information about signage.
Feb 22, 2015, 3:12 pm
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I'm a flyer more concerned with hassle/convenience/schedule than price. I travel frequently to USA and AC has never crossed my mind when exYOW outside of the few occasions where AC served my destination nonstop from YOW.
Have to imagine there are many others not exYUL/YYZ/YVR in the same situation as I. USA-ORD-YOW is an absolute dream compared to USA-YYZ-YOW. I'd prefer to support Canadian carrier but not at the expense of my convenience.
Feb 22, 2015, 3:57 pm
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Not sure will give any advantage. Just will reduce the USA-YYZ-Home disadvantage.
I'm a flyer more concerned with hassle/convenience/schedule than price. I travel frequently to USA and AC has never crossed my mind when exYOW outside of the few occasions where AC served my destination nonstop from YOW.
Have to imagine there are many others not exYUL/YYZ/YVR in the same situation as I. USA-ORD-YOW is an absolute dream compared to USA-YYZ-YOW. I'd prefer to support Canadian carrier but not at the expense of my convenience.
I'm a flyer more concerned with hassle/convenience/schedule than price. I travel frequently to USA and AC has never crossed my mind when exYOW outside of the few occasions where AC served my destination nonstop from YOW.
Have to imagine there are many others not exYUL/YYZ/YVR in the same situation as I. USA-ORD-YOW is an absolute dream compared to USA-YYZ-YOW. I'd prefer to support Canadian carrier but not at the expense of my convenience.
But for flights out of other countries, the only difference between connecting via the US and via YYZ was 1 additional Global Entry terminal (total 5 minutes, max). If YYZ removes the need to wait for luggage, it just gained a few notches over connecting via EWR/ORD/IAD/IAH et. al.
Feb 22, 2015, 6:59 pm
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I would advertise it. I will tell you why.
If not advertised, then certain passengers (not reading those signs in the baggage hall), would be standing at the baggage carousels in vain. I would have done that last night (connecting from LAX to YOW via YYZ), if I had not been told that by the concierge.
The service director (flight attendant) on the LAX to YYZ plane mentioned that we need not pick up our bags - I actually thought I had misheard her statement and I thought what she actually said was that we do have to pick up our bags. I would suggest to AC if the service director on these flights does mention the policy of not having to pick up the bags, then he or she should clarify that this is a pilot project for those certain US west coast cities-YYZ-another Canadian city.
If not advertised, then certain passengers (not reading those signs in the baggage hall), would be standing at the baggage carousels in vain. I would have done that last night (connecting from LAX to YOW via YYZ), if I had not been told that by the concierge.
The service director (flight attendant) on the LAX to YYZ plane mentioned that we need not pick up our bags - I actually thought I had misheard her statement and I thought what she actually said was that we do have to pick up our bags. I would suggest to AC if the service director on these flights does mention the policy of not having to pick up the bags, then he or she should clarify that this is a pilot project for those certain US west coast cities-YYZ-another Canadian city.
My flight was similar. The SD made an announcement. I ignored it, because I was done in YYZ.
Feb 23, 2015, 3:58 am
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My flight in December from SFO-YYZ had this as well, so it's not "that" new.
Definitely SFO.
So they did advertise it. The SD made an announcement. It was probably translated into at least one other language.
My flight was similar. The SD made an announcement. I ignored it, because I was done in YYZ.
Definitely SFO.
So they did advertise it. The SD made an announcement. It was probably translated into at least one other language.
My flight was similar. The SD made an announcement. I ignored it, because I was done in YYZ.
For these flights from the west coast, it should be emphasized that the requirement that the bags not have to be picked up is part of a pilot program from certain US cities; if this is not mentioned, then when the passenger arrives on the next transborder non-west coast flight at YYZ, he/she may not even go to the baggage carousel.
I will be flying to Atlanta today for a business meeting, and arriving back (via YYZ) tomorrow. I will see if the service director mentions that the bags should be picked up.
Feb 23, 2015, 10:25 am
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Well, I believe the program has expanded beyond LAX-YYZ-domestic flights - signs suggest SFO and SAN as well as LAX - can someone confirm that.
The concierge was also wondering if SEA has been added to the pilot program.
To Ben Lipsey or Andrew Yiu or anyone else from AC, perhaps you can confirm my statement? Of note, I do not see any notice of this pilot program on the AC.com web site.
The concierge was also wondering if SEA has been added to the pilot program.
To Ben Lipsey or Andrew Yiu or anyone else from AC, perhaps you can confirm my statement? Of note, I do not see any notice of this pilot program on the AC.com web site.
The sad part was that my jacket was inside my gate-checked carry-on (no thanks to the overzealous GA in SFO) and I had to connect onto a Beechcraft 1900D.
Brrrr....