What service standards to expect in WT+?
Mar 14, 2009, 11:59 am
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So my hope of getting a NetJets card from my darling wife for my next birthday may not be lost after all, especially if she can negotiate a hefty discount ^
Can't see them going out of business as they have the might (and financial backing) of Berkshire Hathaway behind them.
Can't see them going out of business as they have the might (and financial backing) of Berkshire Hathaway behind them.
Is that like an HMV gift card then???
Mar 14, 2009, 12:15 pm
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Why would you actually want a NJ card though? Surely it's a nice feeling ploughing all your spend into a BA (GGL) account up to 4500 TPs a year and reaping the MANY benefits?
OK, so perhaps you end up earning over 4500 TPs in a year BA1A, and therefore consider the extra TPs wasted? I know the feeling, as I've exceeded 5K TPs in the last couple of years, and it's a tad annoying that the next level is Prem and thats unlikely to be awarded to me, for now at least
... but that still wouldn't push me towards private air travel. After 4500, I will choose to fly outside OW and see what the competition is like more often.
I have found private air travel rather boring the very few times I have done it... I actually like airports and seeing other travelers. I once flew private long haul with a client, and the drinks and food were not as good as BA F as it happens!
As for the environmental impact of private air travel... I find it hard enough justifying the amount of air travel I do currently, but at least it is public transport! ^
Does NJ have a loyalty scheme? Am I missing something?
OK, so perhaps you end up earning over 4500 TPs in a year BA1A, and therefore consider the extra TPs wasted? I know the feeling, as I've exceeded 5K TPs in the last couple of years, and it's a tad annoying that the next level is Prem and thats unlikely to be awarded to me, for now at least
... but that still wouldn't push me towards private air travel. After 4500, I will choose to fly outside OW and see what the competition is like more often.I have found private air travel rather boring the very few times I have done it... I actually like airports and seeing other travelers. I once flew private long haul with a client, and the drinks and food were not as good as BA F as it happens!
As for the environmental impact of private air travel... I find it hard enough justifying the amount of air travel I do currently, but at least it is public transport! ^
Does NJ have a loyalty scheme? Am I missing something?
Mar 14, 2009, 12:22 pm
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Why would you actually want a NJ card though? Surely it's a nice feeling ploughing all your spend into a BA (GGL) account up to 4500 TPs a year and reaping the MANY benefits?
OK, so perhaps you end up earning over 4500 TPs in a year BA1A, and therefore consider the extra TPs wasted? I know the feeling, as I've exceeded 5K TPs in the last couple of years, and it's a tad annoying that the next level is Prem and thats unlikely to be awarded to me, for now at least... but that still wouldn't push me towards private air travel. After 4500, I will choose to fly outside OW and see what the competition is like more often.
Does NJ have a loyalty scheme? Am I missing something?
OK, so perhaps you end up earning over 4500 TPs in a year BA1A, and therefore consider the extra TPs wasted? I know the feeling, as I've exceeded 5K TPs in the last couple of years, and it's a tad annoying that the next level is Prem and thats unlikely to be awarded to me, for now at least
... but that still wouldn't push me towards private air travel. After 4500, I will choose to fly outside OW and see what the competition is like more often.Does NJ have a loyalty scheme? Am I missing something?
Last year I did get over 4500 TPs and agree it's frustrating there is nothing after that and like you I am never likely to get a Prem card.
I don't know if NJ have a loyalty scheme but the card is loaded with 25 hours of flying time that you then use up like a normal debit card each time you want to make a booking.
http://www.netjets.com/netjets_progr...s_jet_card.asp
Mar 14, 2009, 12:49 pm
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I know this is seriously detracting from the original topic.... but....
I have flown Private... sort of...
Was on a CPH there and back, not long after I started with BA.
On push-back in CPH, the starter motor in the Right Engine blew and obviously we were then Tech.
No spare in CPH, so had to wait for the next service from LON to bring out a spare, but the next one had just left. So, it was then the one after that. Eventually, after nearly 6 hours, it arrived, was fitted and fixed in an hour.
All passengers had been accommodated on other services, so we flew home Empty. A whole A321 for the 6 of us... was fantastic! Flight Deck door could be left open, and really really made for a fantastic atmosphere. With the delay, we had moved the return Club catering to the back galley and put it in the chilled stowage, so we had that to have on the way home... top banana!
And the bit I did not mention to the rest of the crew was, that I was on overtime... Woops!
So, can that class as a sort of "Self Service" Private flying?
I have flown Private... sort of...
Was on a CPH there and back, not long after I started with BA.
On push-back in CPH, the starter motor in the Right Engine blew and obviously we were then Tech.
No spare in CPH, so had to wait for the next service from LON to bring out a spare, but the next one had just left. So, it was then the one after that. Eventually, after nearly 6 hours, it arrived, was fitted and fixed in an hour.
All passengers had been accommodated on other services, so we flew home Empty. A whole A321 for the 6 of us... was fantastic! Flight Deck door could be left open, and really really made for a fantastic atmosphere. With the delay, we had moved the return Club catering to the back galley and put it in the chilled stowage, so we had that to have on the way home... top banana!
And the bit I did not mention to the rest of the crew was, that I was on overtime... Woops!
So, can that class as a sort of "Self Service" Private flying?
Mar 14, 2009, 1:29 pm
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When I was crew .... 3 yrs ago now as a CSD I drummed into my crew that call bells should always be answered.
As for the pile of glasses and a bottle of water.... just try navigating a dark aisle wi bags and other shite in the aisle when offering a tray of oj and water . That is better than going a over t like I have done many times.
As for the pile of glasses and a bottle of water.... just try navigating a dark aisle wi bags and other shite in the aisle when offering a tray of oj and water . That is better than going a over t like I have done many times.
Mar 14, 2009, 1:32 pm
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We have been provided with little clip on torches now to navigate the obstacle course that is a night flight isle!
VERY best of lick with the rest of your training!
Mar 17, 2009, 6:32 pm
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Just for the record, this was a DAYTIME flight (LHR-JFK) where they did the "juice run" with just a large bottle of water and stack of cups. Couldn't see any good reason not to offer a tray with cups of water and juice, as normal.
Mar 17, 2009, 10:41 pm
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See:
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Mar 18, 2009, 5:21 am
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I have travelled twice on WT+ to LAX with the MRS.I am 15 st and I found the seat width a bit tight for me -would have preferred to have a seat option to take the middle bit out and share the other seat.
What annoyed me on both trips was the fact we got served last as we were at the back and they ran out of meal options ie we dont eat beef and they only had beef left !
I am travelling to SIN on WT+ next month -some kind soul on this site told me the menu -hopefully they will not run out this time !
What annoyed me on both trips was the fact we got served last as we were at the back and they ran out of meal options ie we dont eat beef and they only had beef left !
I am travelling to SIN on WT+ next month -some kind soul on this site told me the menu -hopefully they will not run out this time !
Mar 18, 2009, 5:45 am
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I have travelled twice on WT+ to LAX with the MRS.I am 15 st and I found the seat width a bit tight for me -would have preferred to have a seat option to take the middle bit out and share the other seat.
What annoyed me on both trips was the fact we got served last as we were at the back and they ran out of meal options ie we dont eat beef and they only had beef left !
I am travelling to SIN on WT+ next month -some kind soul on this site told me the menu -hopefully they will not run out this time !
What annoyed me on both trips was the fact we got served last as we were at the back and they ran out of meal options ie we dont eat beef and they only had beef left !
I am travelling to SIN on WT+ next month -some kind soul on this site told me the menu -hopefully they will not run out this time !
Taken from BA.COM, W/T+ description
"On all flights, you can look forward to a three-course meal for breakfast, lunch or dinner, depending on your flight time. We always provide a choice of entrée designed by leading chefs, and we have special meals to accommodate your tastes and dietary requirements - from gluten free to kosher."
W/T description
"They're always on hand to offer you refreshments from our complimentary bar service, as well as tasty meals three course meals perfectly suited to your flight time and designed by leading chefs."
Note the difference, the missing "We always provide a choice" phrase in the W/T description. If you don't get offered a choice in W/T+ ask to speak to the Purser or CSD as you should be getting the choice...