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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
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What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Jul 12, 2017, 3:22 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
With an Expert Flyer or KVS (I think you can do it on KVS but I don't use it so can't be 100%) subscription.
Okay mate, thanks. Something doesn't seem quite right as the AUH flights are also unavailable for sale for 21-23 July
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Old Jul 12, 2017, 3:28 am
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I wonder if one of those flights is being earmarked for cancellation due to the next MF strike? Perhaps they have stopped selling those flights because they are intending to reaccommodate pax from a cancelled service to the other two?
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Old Jul 12, 2017, 3:37 am
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Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
I wonder if one of those flights is being earmarked for cancellation due to the next MF strike? Perhaps they have stopped selling those flights because they are intending to reaccommodate pax from a cancelled service to the other two?
I think has to be the reason. DXB/AUH will be hugely popular destinations during school holidays and the very last thing BA will want is headlines showing kids being denied boarding due to this strike when they're trying so hard to show that they're totally unaffected by it.

That said, the BA flight to DOH and to MCT is also zeroed on that date, so perhaps there's something a little odd going on with the system?
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Old Jul 12, 2017, 4:34 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
I think has to be the reason. DXB/AUH will be hugely popular destinations during school holidays and the very last thing BA will want is headlines showing kids being denied boarding due to this strike when they're trying so hard to show that they're totally unaffected by it.

That said, the BA flight to DOH and to MCT is also zeroed on that date, so perhaps there's something a little odd going on with the system?
BAH is also zeroed 22+23/07

Something not quite right here
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Old Jul 12, 2017, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by peterinlewesuk
UK Position

BA 99
LHR 19/07/17 17:00
YYZ 19/07/17 19:50
789
F1 A0 J6 C1 D1 R1 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 98
YYZ 01/08/17 22:00
LHR 02/08/17 10:05
777
F7 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I7 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S8 N9 Q6 O0 G0
Many thanks! First one looks quite full. Will be very happy to wait a day if the price is right . Though I'll be connecting from ARN so there's a possibility they won't even ask.
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Old Jul 14, 2017, 9:12 am
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Hi,

Could someone check the following loads for me:

BA 84 YVR-LHR July 21st
BA 85 LHR-YVR July 30th

Thanks!
TUF
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Old Jul 14, 2017, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by theultimateflyer
hi,

could someone check the following loads for me:

Ba 84 yvr-lhr july 21st
ba 85 lhr-yvr july 30th

thanks!
Tuf
us pos:

Ba84 f1 a0 j6 c0 d0 r0 i0 w6 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l7 v5 s0 n0 q0 o0 g9

ba85 f0 a0 j6 c3 d2 r2 i0 w9 e5 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m1 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0
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Old Jul 16, 2017, 2:44 am
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YVR looks busy

Hello, could someone possibly check loads on the following flights, please:

BA0085 LHR-YVR 18th July
BA0084 YVR-LHR 16th Aug

I have avios seats but concerned we might be offloaded... we're both GCH but don't know if BA will care.

Many thanks

26L
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Old Jul 16, 2017, 2:48 am
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Originally Posted by 26left
Hello, could someone possibly check loads on the following flights, please:

BA0085 LHR-YVR 18th July
BA0084 YVR-LHR 16th Aug

I have avios seats but concerned we might be offloaded... we're both GCH but don't know if BA will care.

Many thanks

26L
UK Position

BA 85
LHR 18/07/17 17:20
YVR 18/07/17 18:50
388
F0 A0 J6 C2 D0 R0 I0 W8 E0 T0 Y6 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 84
YVR 16/08/17 20:55
LHR 17/08/17 14:15
388
F1 A0 J6 C4 D2 R0 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K8 M3 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Jul 16, 2017, 2:53 am
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That was very quick! Thank you very much
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Old Jul 18, 2017, 12:38 pm
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Could someone possibly check:

BA346 on Sunday 23rd July - LHR-NCE

for me?

That'd be really kind.
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Old Jul 18, 2017, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by AdBoy
Could someone possibly check:

BA346 on Sunday 23rd July - LHR-NCE

for me?

That'd be really kind.
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 07/23/17 12:00 AM for NCE
Flying BA
Point of Sale: UK

0 Connections
BA 346 0 "LHR
07/23/17 9:40 AM" "NCE
07/23/17 12:45 PM" 767 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y4 B3 H2 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G1
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Old Jul 18, 2017, 1:34 pm
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Can somebody please check

BA2157/2256 LGW ANU PLS ANU LGW

30/7/17 - 13/8/17

Last edited by msstendring; Jul 18, 2017 at 3:14 pm
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Old Jul 18, 2017, 2:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Rubecula
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 07/23/17 12:00 AM for NCE
Flying BA
Point of Sale: UK

0 Connections
BA 346 0 "LHR
07/23/17 9:40 AM" "NCE
07/23/17 12:45 PM" 767 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y4 B3 H2 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G1
Much obliged.
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Old Jul 18, 2017, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by msstendring
Can somebody please check

BA2157/2256 LGW PLS LGW

30/7/17 - 13/8/17
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