Flying to Belfast from London - not a domestic flight?!
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Flying to Belfast from London - not a domestic flight?!
I was checking-in at LHR T5 last week with my 2 young children. I checked in my luggage and was asked for my passport. I said that I didn't have it with me and, as it is a domestic flight, I didn't need one. I told her that I was prepared to show her my driving license as ID, but she said that the children wouldn't be able to fly without ID.
She asked her colleague next to her for confirmation that "Belfast is like Dublin, isn't it". Her colleague said to call the helpline for confirmation.
It was at this point that I got a bit annoyed - I said that if I was travelling to Edinburgh I wouldn't need it, so why should Belfast, as part of the same country, need it. She said it was for my security .
I knew for a fact that I didn't need a passport, and had my driving license with me. Time was running a bit short and I was agitated that two employees at the home terminal both didn't know the standard requirements for travelling domestically. Of course the phone line (sentinel or something like that?) confirmed it wasn't needed, but there wasn't much of an apology for wasting my time, more a justification that it was for my own good that these things are being checked....
Maybe they should read the website
Identification on UK internal flights
If you are flying solely within the UK, including Northern Ireland, you do not need a passport but we advise that you carry photographic identification with you when travelling, such as your passport or driving licence. This may be requested at certain points in your journey. Children under the age of 16 years old do not require identification to travel within the UK.
I appreciate that different countries have different passport and visa requirements, but is this not part of the "check-in staff 101" course?!
She asked her colleague next to her for confirmation that "Belfast is like Dublin, isn't it". Her colleague said to call the helpline for confirmation.
It was at this point that I got a bit annoyed - I said that if I was travelling to Edinburgh I wouldn't need it, so why should Belfast, as part of the same country, need it. She said it was for my security .
I knew for a fact that I didn't need a passport, and had my driving license with me. Time was running a bit short and I was agitated that two employees at the home terminal both didn't know the standard requirements for travelling domestically. Of course the phone line (sentinel or something like that?) confirmed it wasn't needed, but there wasn't much of an apology for wasting my time, more a justification that it was for my own good that these things are being checked....
Maybe they should read the website
Identification on UK internal flights
If you are flying solely within the UK, including Northern Ireland, you do not need a passport but we advise that you carry photographic identification with you when travelling, such as your passport or driving licence. This may be requested at certain points in your journey. Children under the age of 16 years old do not require identification to travel within the UK.
I appreciate that different countries have different passport and visa requirements, but is this not part of the "check-in staff 101" course?!
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Flying to Belfast from London - not a domestic flight?!
They can't get the rules right for lounge access. Do you really expect them to know domestic rules on flights?
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No ID needed by BA, except if checking luggage when a BAEC card will suffice.
Do be aware that the Police at either end have been known to ask for photographic ID on occasions. Police in NI can ask for photo ID under anti-terrorist legislation though it's been ages since I've been asked even when flying. I have seen police monitoring inbound flights and they even have podiums in arrivals.
Occasionally on departure from Belfast the Home Office perform checks on those departing, even when there are only domestics leaving. This I presume is due to the open land border with the Republic acting as a potentially unguarded entry point to GB.
Do be aware that the Police at either end have been known to ask for photographic ID on occasions. Police in NI can ask for photo ID under anti-terrorist legislation though it's been ages since I've been asked even when flying. I have seen police monitoring inbound flights and they even have podiums in arrivals.
Occasionally on departure from Belfast the Home Office perform checks on those departing, even when there are only domestics leaving. This I presume is due to the open land border with the Republic acting as a potentially unguarded entry point to GB.
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I never understood what is the big deal to carry a photographic ID,especially when travelling this far. For me it is just easier to give the agent my ID,than to argue with them and risk missing my flight.
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Had to produce passport to security in T5 last month when opting out of the body scanner. I was on a Domestic.
About 18 months ago, I was detained under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act at LBA when I couldn't produce my passport. Police officer wouldn't accept that I couldn't produce what I didn't have. Off I went for 'an interview' and a thorough search.
Palmer
About 18 months ago, I was detained under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act at LBA when I couldn't produce my passport. Police officer wouldn't accept that I couldn't produce what I didn't have. Off I went for 'an interview' and a thorough search.
Palmer
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Just under one third of the UK population currently have no government issued photographic ID of any description. Either they don't have a passport, military / police ID, or driving licence, or it's out of date.
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Had to produce passport to security in T5 last month when opting out of the body scanner. I was on a Domestic.
About 18 months ago, I was detained under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act at LBA when I couldn't produce my passport. Police officer wouldn't accept that I couldn't produce what I didn't have. Off I went for 'an interview' and a thorough search.
Palmer
About 18 months ago, I was detained under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act at LBA when I couldn't produce my passport. Police officer wouldn't accept that I couldn't produce what I didn't have. Off I went for 'an interview' and a thorough search.
Palmer
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Identification on UK internal flights
If you are flying solely within the UK, including Northern Ireland, you do not need a passport but we advise that you carry photographic identification with you when travelling, such as your passport or driving licence. This may be requested at certain points in your journey. Children under the age of 16 years old do not require identification to travel within the UK.
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