REUTERS UK: Ryanair in talks with BA on feeding l/h flights as early as November
Aug 10, 2015, 11:15 am
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REUTERS UK: Ryanair in talks with BA on feeding l/h flights as early as November
It looks like Ryanair wants to become a s/h feeder to BA, Iberia and Aer Lingus.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/0...0QF1OP20150810
This could become interesting.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/0...0QF1OP20150810
This could become interesting.
Aug 10, 2015, 11:24 am
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Blimey, well that would be an interesting development, mainly for DUB, where the potential must be enormous, and a bit of LGW and MAD. I went to a Easyjet presentation a few weeks ago for their frequent flyers (and it was in a Pizza Express which still makes me laugh if one compares to the BA equivalent) and they were murmuring about doing a limited amount of transfer traffic on certain routes.
Aug 10, 2015, 11:28 am
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Why would someone pay for a BA long haul ticket to travel FR? 
They may get some price sensitive Y flyers but possibly lose most W/J/F travel that doesn't start at LHR. And is it FR to STN, or is BA planning on becoming a long haul only airline and sell their LHR slots? Not April 1 is it?
They may get some price sensitive Y flyers but possibly lose most W/J/F travel that doesn't start at LHR. And is it FR to STN, or is BA planning on becoming a long haul only airline and sell their LHR slots? Not April 1 is it?
Aug 10, 2015, 11:28 am
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He said he had spoken with IAG "in the context if IAG were to do something long-haul out of (London) Stansted," a major operational hub for Ryanair.
Aug 10, 2015, 11:31 am
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Yet another example (if one is needed) that cost-cutting is horribly addictive. If this was successful on a trial basis, the logical consequence is BA ending short haul flying, as let's face it, it will never beat FR on cost and it avoids difficult brand cannabilisation issues.
Yet another example (if one is needed) that cost-cutting is horribly addictive. If this was successful on a trial basis, the logical consequence is BA ending short haul flying, as let's face it, it will never beat FR on cost and it avoids difficult brand cannabilisation issues.
Aug 10, 2015, 11:31 am
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It would seem to be worth reading all of the article carefully, as origin has done, before asking oneself what the chances are of any of this actually coming to pass.
Aug 10, 2015, 11:38 am
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Very unusual. One is used to hearing attention grabbing press releases from FR but I can't imagine this one is totally fabricated as it mentions the long haul carriers by name. BA at STN? FR at T5? Strange times...
Aug 10, 2015, 11:53 am
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Not the first time this year he has raised this, it came up in January
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/m...et-planes.html
One would also wonder about similar possible implications if U2 followed through on their suggestion that they would enter LHR in the event of a third runway being built.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/m...et-planes.html
One would also wonder about similar possible implications if U2 followed through on their suggestion that they would enter LHR in the event of a third runway being built.
Aug 10, 2015, 12:13 pm
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I can see this - in a price sensitive market. FR could have a monopoly for all long haul European carriers. Short haul J could be retained in certain key routes.
It's a shame. I'm one of the very few people it seems who is willing to pay up to, say, a £75 premium for a better shorthaul Y experience or pay say £300 return supplement for a J product. The problem I find is that BA is cutting the Y product so is cutting away my justification for choosing them over U2. I will not fly FR unless there is no alternative. I don't agree with the race to bottom. Sadly, lots of consumers disagree with me and are purely price sensitive.
It's a shame. I'm one of the very few people it seems who is willing to pay up to, say, a £75 premium for a better shorthaul Y experience or pay say £300 return supplement for a J product. The problem I find is that BA is cutting the Y product so is cutting away my justification for choosing them over U2. I will not fly FR unless there is no alternative. I don't agree with the race to bottom. Sadly, lots of consumers disagree with me and are purely price sensitive.
Aug 10, 2015, 12:13 pm
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Look at it with East European eyes: well away from VY's footprint. Lublin-DUB-Chicago would be an example, given that would be primarily a Star Alliance routing at the moment. And there are a heck of a lot of Polish folk in Chicago. It doesn't "contaminate" BA's LHR and LGW's network, FR only fly to a few places from LGW, but it adds potential from DUB when Aer Lingus enters IAG's embrace.
Aug 10, 2015, 12:16 pm
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Interesting - thought the Virgin reference made more sense though, given absence of shorthaul there (and in same way EI provides feed to BA etc.)