charltonfan1

Based in YYZ and need to plan a trip to & from EDI before my TP collection year ends

Before realizing Gold was within reach my plan was the standard YYZ-LHR (WT+ with UUA to CW) LHR-EDI and same route back again (WT+ on TATL). This would only give me 200 TPs leaving me 135 short of Gold.

Any creative routes i could take (at minimal $) to earn more TPs for this trip?

TyneTraveller

You could book the US airways flights YYZ -JFK via CLT rtn and use BA WT+ rtn NYC-EDI. That would get you an extra 140TP's (10+60rtn) which should get you to gold for around $600. I might be wrong, but the YYZ/JFK - EDI should get you 220TP's as the domestic sector is usually booked into J on those routes (90+20=110 each way). That would leave you only needing 115 for gold which the US airways flights would get you.

Or, stick with the original TATL plan, and possibly do an EDI-JER/AMS rtn in CE which would get you 120TP's.

Good luck

Cymro

What dates are you thinking of?

Also I *think* you would actually make 220 TP on YYZ - LHR - EDI as the domestic leg would book into fully-flex Y.

cristo

Wouldn't a return first class on AA or US from YYZ to anywhere (close) be cheaper than this, and achieve the same goal?

charltonfan1

Thanks for the suggestions so far.

I am trying to achieve it on minimal cost hence not paying for First

It would be outbound around 20th May and back around 24th May

TravellingSalesman

Presumably this requires the JFK<->CLT sectors to be in F...


That is my experience with ET connections from/to WT+.

Cymro

As YYZ is in Canada, it would only be a business fare and therefore earn 40TP each way.

cristo

Thanks, I wasn't aware of the lack of first out of Canada.

charltonfan1

I'm struggling to get ITAMATRIX to price up the route:

YYZ-CLT-JFK-LHR-EDI on 20th or 21st May
EDI-LHR-YYZ on 24th May

I can get the price with Y legs for YYZ-CLT-JFK but don't know the advance routing codes to force this to show First or Business fares. any ideas?

Alternatively could try YYZ-CLT(J)-JFK(J)-LHR(WT+)-EDI(J) on 20th or 21st May. EDI-LHR(J)-JFK(WT+)-YYZ(J) on 24th May but this requires 7 flights but ITA has a max of 6

TyneTraveller

I'm no expert, but I wouldn't think so as is classed as a short hall international flight from YYZ so only business for 40tp's for good value. There are some first options, but cheap won't be an option. I was thinking the US YYZ-CLT books into econonmy V for 10Tp's, and then you would have the 60TP's for the US CLT-JFK booking into P for 60 TP's.

cristo

You're right!

TravellingSalesman

If just looking for 120TP OP can always connect through JFK, PHL or CLT with a long layover and then take a return F in-between. Some of these can be ridiculously cheap.

TyneTraveller

Someone far better than me might help you with the ITA entries, but risking the 2PNR's you could try something like the below with an overnight stop in NYC on the return. There are many differing flight combinations available for the below prices.


Itinerary
Toronto (YYZ) to New York (JFK) — Wed, May 20
Long layover

Toronto (YYZ) to Charlotte (CLT) — Wed, May 20
American Airlines Inc. 4699
Dep: 6:55 am
Arr: 9:05 am
2h 10m
Embraer RJ-175
Business (I)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS EXPRESS-REPUBLIC AIRLINES
Layover in CLT
4h 16m

Charlotte (CLT) to New York (JFK) — Wed, May 20
American Airlines Inc. 529
Dep: 1:21 pm
Arr: 3:19 pm
1h 58m
Airbus A321
First (P)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS
New York (JFK) to Toronto (YYZ) — Mon, May 25

New York (JFK) to Charlotte (CLT) — Mon, May 25
American Airlines Inc. 461
Dep: 6:20 am
Arr: 8:17 am
1h 57m
Airbus A321
First (P)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS
Layover in CLT
1h 9m

Charlotte (CLT) to Toronto (YYZ) — Mon, May 25
American Airlines Inc. 4504
Dep: 9:26 am
Arr: 11:30 am
2h 4m
Embraer RJ-175
Business (I)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS EXPRESS-REPUBLIC AIRLINES
Mileage
2,256 total miles
CO2 Emissions
599 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
Toronto Lester B Pearson (YYZ)
New York John F Kennedy International (JFK)
Charlotte Douglas (CLT)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
CA$662.81
Total cost for 1 passenger
CA$662.81

AND


New York (JFK) to Edinburgh (EDI) — Wed, May 20
Overnight flight

New York (JFK) to London (LHR) — Wed, May 20
British Airways 172
Dep: 9:20 pm
Arr: 9:25 am
7h 5m
Boeing 747
Premium economy (T)
Meal
Layover in LHR
Thu, May 21
2h 15m

London (LHR) to Edinburgh (EDI) — Thu, May 21
British Airways 1442
Dep: 11:40 am
Arr: 1:00 pm
1h 20m
Airbus A320
Business (J)
Snack or Brunch
Edinburgh (EDI) to New York (JFK) — Sun, May 24

Edinburgh (EDI) to London (LHR) — Sun, May 24
British Airways 1461
Dep: 8:00 am
Arr: 9:25 am
1h 25m
Boeing 767
Business (J)
Snack or Brunch
Layover in LHR
1h 55m

London (LHR) to New York (JFK) — Sun, May 24
British Airways 173
Dep: 11:20 am
Arr: 1:55 pm
7h 35m
Boeing 747
Premium economy (T)
Meal
Mileage
7,540 total miles
CO2 Emissions
1,696 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
New York John F Kennedy International (JFK)
Edinburgh (EDI)
London Heathrow (LHR)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
$2,258.60
Total cost for 1 passenger
$2,258.60


That little trip should net you 420 TP's I think

fransknorge

I found you this:
Toronto (YYZ) to Edinburgh (EDI) — Thu, May 21
Long layoverOvernight flightMissing this connection may lead to significant delays

Toronto (YYZ) to Charlotte (CLT) — Thu, May 21
US Airways 4599
Dep: 12:10 pm
Arr: 2:12 pm
2h 2m
Embraer RJ-175
Business (I)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS EXPRESS-REPUBLIC AIRLINES
Layover in CLT
5h 43m

Charlotte (CLT) to New York (JFK) — Thu, May 21
American Airlines Inc. 2380
Dep: 7:55 pm
Arr: 9:45 pm
1h 50m
Boeing 737
First (P)
Layover in JFK
0h 40m

New York (JFK) to London (LHR) — Thu, May 21
American Airlines Inc. 104
Dep: 10:25 pm
Arr: 10:30 am
7h 5m
Boeing 777
Business (I)
Dinner, Continental BreakfastMovieIn-seat Video Player
Layover in LHR
Fri, May 22
2h 20m

London (LHR) to Edinburgh (EDI) — Fri, May 22
British Airways 1444
Dep: 12:50 pm
Arr: 2:10 pm
1h 20m
Airbus A321
Business (J)
Snack or Brunch
Edinburgh (EDI) to Toronto (YYZ) — Sun, May 24
Long layover

Edinburgh (EDI) to London (LHR) — Sun, May 24
British Airways 1461
Dep: 8:00 am
Arr: 9:25 am
1h 25m
Boeing 767
Business (J)
Snack or Brunch
Layover in LHR
7h 35m

London (LHR) to Toronto (YYZ) — Sun, May 24
British Airways 99
Dep: 5:00 pm
Arr: 7:45 pm
7h 45m
Boeing 777
Premium economy (T)
Meal

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
CA$3,498.76
Total cost for 1 passenger
CA$3,498.76

This gives 40+60+140+20+20+90=370 TP
And 20 303 Avios.

charltonfan1

Thanks Both, will consider these in more detail.

How do you choose travel classes in the advanced route coding on ITA?