Using a 2-4-1 but booking legs separately
#16
Join Date: Jun 2003
Programs: BA, IHG, 5C
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So I spoke with BAEC and the very helpful lady said that even if I just book the one way before the changes, when I come to add the return it will be at the old redemption prices. She didn't however sound very sure. I went through the whole scenario again and she asked me why I would be booking a 2-4-1 as seperate legs. After I had explained my reasonings she again assured me that when I want to add the return leg it would be at the redemption rates before the changes. I hope this is correct but guess I have to trust the info given.
However if it did work, presumably it would be possible to "stretch-out" the current pricing even further:
i) Before the changes book an April 2016 outbound
ii) Months later add a March 2017 inbound
iii) Change the outbound date to 2017.
This relies on (iii) being allowed and not triggering a re-price, but I think we've seen in the past that the website does not reprice the avios element on legal online changes (subject to the voucher's expiry date being 2017).
#20
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: North West England
Programs: BAEC, Hilton Gold
Posts: 58
Sorry for the hijack - tried to find answer in other threads but couldn't find exact answer.
Planning open jaw: LHR-WAS out & GIG-LHR return. 4 passengers; 2 x 241s .
I like to be prepared so called BAEC about the booking process. Agent said:
1. If I book online LHR-WAS at T-355 days, when I call to add inbound I will be charged 4 x £15 booking fee plus 4 x £35 change fee = £200
2. If I call BAEC to book outbound, I will be charged 4 x £15 booking fee = £60, but additional fees will be waived when I call up to add return leg as it was out of range at date of booking outbound.
Is this right?
As seats are (mostly) being released in the middle of the night, I know it will be best to call any BA outpost - but will they be aware of the 241 voucher and fees situation?
Planning open jaw: LHR-WAS out & GIG-LHR return. 4 passengers; 2 x 241s .
I like to be prepared so called BAEC about the booking process. Agent said:
1. If I book online LHR-WAS at T-355 days, when I call to add inbound I will be charged 4 x £15 booking fee plus 4 x £35 change fee = £200
2. If I call BAEC to book outbound, I will be charged 4 x £15 booking fee = £60, but additional fees will be waived when I call up to add return leg as it was out of range at date of booking outbound.
Is this right?
As seats are (mostly) being released in the middle of the night, I know it will be best to call any BA outpost - but will they be aware of the 241 voucher and fees situation?
Last edited by JonTY1; Mar 4, 2015 at 9:24 am Reason: poor spelling
#22
Join Date: Jun 2003
Programs: BA, IHG, 5C
Posts: 4,413
I don't know how this gets worked out but it's been done by enough of us to confirm it's no problem. I assume the one year window resets when you add the inbound. I'm also sure in the past people have booked dummy returns (i.e. have a one-day trip) then moved the inbound back online with no issue, so it doesn't rely on any clever workaround by an agent.
#23
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 116
In theory the trip must be completed within a year of the booking date. If you book the outbound today for 23-Feb-16 and then in 3 weeks book the inbound for 16-Mar-16, clearly the inbound is more than a year from today.
I don't know how this gets worked out but it's been done by enough of us to confirm it's no problem. I assume the one year window resets when you add the inbound. I'm also sure in the past people have booked dummy returns (i.e. have a one-day trip) then moved the inbound back online with no issue, so it doesn't rely on any clever workaround by an agent.
I don't know how this gets worked out but it's been done by enough of us to confirm it's no problem. I assume the one year window resets when you add the inbound. I'm also sure in the past people have booked dummy returns (i.e. have a one-day trip) then moved the inbound back online with no issue, so it doesn't rely on any clever workaround by an agent.
I was thinking of booking a dummy return day trip for example today outbound 23 Feb 16 and then in 6 weeks moving the inbound back to April 6 2016 online hopefully.
From what you have said this sounds like it is Ok.
Anyone actually done this successfully please?
#24
Join Date: Jun 2003
Programs: BA, IHG, 5C
Posts: 4,413
Thank you.
I was thinking of booking a dummy return day trip for example today outbound 23 Feb 16 and then in 6 weeks moving the inbound back to April 6 2016 online hopefully.
From what you have said this sounds like it is Ok.
Anyone actually done this successfully please?
I was thinking of booking a dummy return day trip for example today outbound 23 Feb 16 and then in 6 weeks moving the inbound back to April 6 2016 online hopefully.
From what you have said this sounds like it is Ok.
Anyone actually done this successfully please?
#26
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 60
I tried to change a 2 day trip and ended up cancelling the whole trip as I couldn't change the return when the correct inbound opened up. I must have got an unhelpful agent. I have never tried again and now book one way and add the return
#27
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: GNV
Programs: Delta Skymiles, BAEC
Posts: 74
As a follow-up to this thread, I have a similar question but with a variation. I have successfully booked my outbound leg using a 2-4-1 (BA Chase Visa in this case). I am set to book the return flights next week using the call center. However, my return flight is over two days. In waiting for the second leg of the return flight to open up I am afraid the first leg will lose availability. Can one (hypothetically) book the initial leg on one day (JNB-LHR) and then book the second leg (LHR-JFK) the next. Availability from LHR onwards is not an issue. There is usually plenty of availability. BUT, the JNB-LHR leg goes pretty quickly. Is this doable (recognizing there will be a fee for each phone reservation).
#28
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 116
Which call centre is the best one to ring from the UK when seats are released at midnight, please?
Singapore and Hong Kong have been mentioned but these do not appear to be open at midnight our time (tried tonight).
Can anyone report any good experiences with any call centres when trying to add the inbound to an existing outbound 2 for 1 booking at midnight UK time please?
Singapore and Hong Kong have been mentioned but these do not appear to be open at midnight our time (tried tonight).
Can anyone report any good experiences with any call centres when trying to add the inbound to an existing outbound 2 for 1 booking at midnight UK time please?
#29
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Location: London
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In theory the trip must be completed within a year of the booking date. If you book the outbound today for 23-Feb-16 and then in 3 weeks book the inbound for 16-Mar-16, clearly the inbound is more than a year from today.
I don't know how this gets worked out but it's been done by enough of us to confirm it's no problem. I assume the one year window resets when you add the inbound.
I don't know how this gets worked out but it's been done by enough of us to confirm it's no problem. I assume the one year window resets when you add the inbound.
#30
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There are lots of reports of people successfully doing this.