jonesle7

Just a quick warning that AVIS is no longer awarding miles if you have a Corporate account in your profile. This was implemented January 1st and all of my rentals for 2015 were denied miles because of the enforcement of the rule. AVIS's terms and conditions were updated to exclude miles from being earned whenever a Corporate or discounted rate was used.

https://www.avis.com/car-rental/cont...navId=T5M17S00

FullTimeFlyer

Wow, this is about the worst car rental news ever...so all those "anticipated miles" their website is giving are total BS and they are scamming us. Just more crap and decline in FF land.

Does anyone know if their corporate partner Budget is the same? It's the only other brand my company has a deal with... will have to try and check later if no replies but getting on a plane...

Gotta see if I can get away from Avis as much as possible then.

No wonder United has now dropped them - no miles.

FTF

IAHtraveler

Nah, United dropped them because Hertz offered a more valuable partnership than Avis would have.

sdsearch

I don't this is saying that you won't earn miles if you have a Corporate "account" (whatever you mean by that) in your profile . I think it's saying that you can't earn miles any more (again?) whenever you use a corporate AWD.

I say "again?" because years ago, at least for BA miles (when I first started collecting BA miles about a dozen years ago, and for at least several years after that), you couldn't earn BA miles if you used a corporate AWD.

(I know BA now uses Avios points, but back then it used miles.)

FullTimeFlyer

Yes, I suppose - but not sure that it doesn't come down to the same thing. If Avis will no longer give miles to anyone using a corporate AWD, they're going to be buying a lot fewer miles - much less value for the airline.

The airlines no doubt knew about this long before we did - explains why Delta and United are both promoting Hertz now.

FTF

FullTimeFlyer

Sorry sdsearch I know you are trying to be precise, but although those aren't my words I don't see any meaningful difference in those terms.

Corporations (like mine) have contracts or accounts with Avis. Our travel department even has a rep - who calls their account person at Avis on rare occasions relating to financial stuff or damage. (They don't get involved in miles.) That's shown by the AWD. But there's an underlying contract (or as we say in my business in the opposite direction, an account); the AWD doesn't come from nowhere.

So for me:

Account = contract = AWD.

Anyway, back to the news at hand, suddenly all those terms are bad.

FTF

sdsearch

The thing is, at Avis, the term "account" refers to your Wizard account (ie, your login account at Avis.com). And these terms don't refer to that kind of account, but, in Avis terms, only when you use the corporate AWD. If you choose to use a non-corporate AWD as your default AWD, then you can earn miles on those rentals where you use that non-corporate AWD, but when you put in your corporate AWD, then you can't earn miles any more.

But, to make it more confusing, there's not just your AWD that's at issue; there's a whole thread here where people used to collect AWDs not given to them by the company they work at, and many of those used to give miles but now won't. So this doesn't just affect people who get their AWD from their company, it also affects some of those people who use some AWD they found somewhere or other (previously often not paying much attention to whether it was a corporate or non-corporate AWD).

IAHtraveler

All, the start of this discussion started in another thread. I've moved them here to keep other threads on-topic.

Cheers,
IAHtraveler

vatali

I can tell you that MY corporate AWD still gives miles, at least for AA.

01/05/15 AVIS 5 DY ROANOKE APO VA 250 0 250
01/05/15 AVIS BONUS MILES 0 750 750

right out of my AA account. Every year some add, some drop, some change. it costs people more money to add miles to an account (meaning the rental goes up with you select miles coupons or put in miles earning) by about 3 bucks on my AWD. I could see why that option would be removed form certain contracts if you rented a ton, or ate the cost.

FullTimeFlyer

I called someone from Avis corporate on this. She told me that although the language is on all the contract and T&C, it is still a company-by-company decision. She checked for me, and my company had not discontinued paying miles. Some have, however.

Since then I've rented a few times and received the offered standard and bonus miles. Which is nice because I'm used to Avis and like the AA 3-day offer (even if it's nothing like the old days...I earned an awful lot of DL miles from Avis and Budget.

If you use a corporate AWD and haven't already experienced whether it works for you and your AWD it's probably worth calling them. Or alternatively, just doing a short rental that you can live with the miles not posting.

Good luck and as always...YMMV.

FTF

economyplusfan

No AS miles for me using my Corporate AWD in my reservation. It would be nice if AVIS's reservation form blacked out the FF mile input section or in some other way informed customers that this was the case. I only found out by calling AVIS CS when my miles didn't post.

GW McLintock

My old company has a code I can still use, but I generally found better rates using publicly available ones or my USAA rate. I think I actually used my company's code only once. AutoSlash beats it 99% of the time.

When I used to rent with Hertz for actual company business, I got special permission from the company to book on my own and expense (and not book through Concur) and the rates I got were sometimes 50% lower than what I would have paid otherwise. I saved us a decent amount of money that way. And I got all the points

-J.