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Old Aug 3, 2017, 10:07 am
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AA Limiting # of Segments on Award Tickets as of 3 Aug 2017

Per OMAAT, AA is putting in place a segment limit for all award tickets:

As of today, American has added a new restriction to AAdvantage award tickets. Going forward, you’ll be allowed at most three segments on an AAdvantage award within the US and Canada, and at most four segments on an international AAdvantage award. Those limits are one-way, meaning you’d be allowed twice as many segments on a roundtrip.

I’m told that these changes are being implemented as they’re in line with American’s most direct routing rules, and allow them to “better support their partner airlines.”
Link: http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...segment-limit/

Mods please move if this has already been reported and elsewhere.
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Old Aug 3, 2017, 10:15 am
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I don't admire it, but observe that is a fairly long-standing Delta rule, too, in the same format: 3 for US/CAN, 4 for other international.

If AA implements a strict published fare rule for all awards, too, it may come to bite the more creative (or desperate) routings.
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Old Aug 3, 2017, 10:21 am
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Will a ground transfer between co-terminals count as one of the permissible segments?
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Old Aug 3, 2017, 10:48 am
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I wouldn't really care except they seem to want to force more segments on us with their current inventory control practices.
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One of the business case assumptions for this -- especially on internationals limited to 4 -- was to force more paid US to Int'l gateways or a 2nd ticket at any any time redemption.

One of the the major impacts will be non gateways to say deep Asia 2 where one could easily have a say MSY DFW LAX HKG SIN KUL. Just one example. But u get my drift.
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Old Aug 3, 2017, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by AAExecPlatFlier
One of the business case assumptions for this -- especially on internationals limited to 4 -- was to force more paid US to Int'l gateways or a 2nd ticket at any any time redemption.

One of the the major impacts will be non gateways to say deep Asia 2 where one could easily have a say MSY DFW LAX HKG SIN KUL. Just one example. But u get my drift.
Yeah I had a few like that, 24 hours in each of various cities, REP-KUL-HKG-TPE-ICN-NRT-SFO-LAX-JFK etc. Oh well. Good while it lasted.
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Old Aug 3, 2017, 8:53 pm
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AWARD SEGMENT LIMIT 3 Aug 2017: max 3 US-Cda, 4 max int'l.

AA has clamped a three segment limit for USA-Canada awards and a four segment limit on international awards if they are "intended" (not if aa.com or the CSR gives you a routing with more segments than you presumably want) effective immediately.

No discussion of Mexico or Caribbean awards - e.g. do 500 mile upgrade limitations apply to delineate the 3 vs 4 max segments? We'll have to find out as we go along.

From Lucky at One Mile at a Time (link)

You have to intend (my emphasis) to take the most direct routing, which is explained in the rules as follows: “The number of awards assessed should be determined by the customer’s intentions. If the indirect routing is booked at the customer’s request, multiple awards should apply using Pricing Override Options – Force Fare Breakpoint. If the routing is booked based on lack of award availability on direct routes, then an exception may be made, allowing Sabre to price as one award.”
More at OMAAT.

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Old Aug 3, 2017, 9:17 pm
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Also discussed in this thread from today:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...d-tickets.html
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Old Aug 4, 2017, 8:46 am
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Most of the time I wouldn't even want so many domestic or international segments anyways.
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Old Aug 4, 2017, 9:11 am
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Where this bites you is something like XXX-LAX-NRT-HKG-XXX.
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Old Aug 4, 2017, 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by Phasers
Where this bites you is something like XXX-LAX-NRT-HKG-XXX.
I'm confused. How would that bite you, since it is intl and 4 segments?

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Old Aug 4, 2017, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by Phasers
Where this bites you is something like XXX-LAX-NRT-HKG-XXX.
Originally Posted by JoeWoodstock
I'm confused. How would that bite you, since it is intl and 4 segments?

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Because often the domestic nonstop to LAX isn't available, but a connection in ORD/DFW/PHX is?
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Old Aug 4, 2017, 10:03 am
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Who's idea was multi-stops anyway? We haven't been permitted a direct or nearly so routing in years. The only routing we've been offered are something like Florida by way of Seattle and New York.
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Originally Posted by swag
Because often the domestic nonstop to LAX isn't available, but a connection in ORD/DFW/PHX is?
But that won't be a problem, since that would fall under the exception mentioned above.
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Old Aug 4, 2017, 1:35 pm
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But that won't be a problem, since that would fall under the exception mentioned above.
I haven't followed this all that closely yet-- which exception are you referring to?
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