Didn't get points/miles...does this make sense?
Apr 21, 2013, 2:15 pm
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Didn't get points/miles...does this make sense?
I used my AA number.
I booked via BA (ba.com)
I had a connection from LHR to DUB on Aer Lingus metal.
I received miles for IAD to LHR on BA metal on my AA account, and also LHR back to IAD. However, the inbound and outbound from LHR to DUB on Aer Lingus metal...I didn't get any miles.
Is this how it works/is this supposed to happen?
Also, I wasn't able to use the lounge from LHR to DUB too since my flight was on Aer Lingus...
Everything was booked through BA's website though...
I booked via BA (ba.com)
I had a connection from LHR to DUB on Aer Lingus metal.
I received miles for IAD to LHR on BA metal on my AA account, and also LHR back to IAD. However, the inbound and outbound from LHR to DUB on Aer Lingus metal...I didn't get any miles.
Is this how it works/is this supposed to happen?
Also, I wasn't able to use the lounge from LHR to DUB too since my flight was on Aer Lingus...
Everything was booked through BA's website though...
Apr 21, 2013, 2:19 pm
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Aer Lingus is no longer part of Oneworld; were the EI flights sold as AA or BA codeshares? If not, then I don't see the issue.
Edit: Here is the Avios earnings page for EI: http://www.britishairways.com/travel...s/public/en_gb
Edit: Here is the Avios earnings page for EI: http://www.britishairways.com/travel...s/public/en_gb
Apr 21, 2013, 2:21 pm
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Yes it was BA codeshare I believe. The overall trip was IAD to DUB, BA put me on a connection from LHR to DUB...so it was part of my BA itinerary...which is why I'm not sure if I should be earning miles...BA flight number, but Aer LIngus metal..
Apr 21, 2013, 2:28 pm
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I don't believe that BA codeshares on EI metal are eligible for AAdvantage mile accrual, although they would be eligible for Avios:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e...es/british.jsp
Earn AA miles on BA flights (operated and marketed by BA) plus BA codeshares on other OW member flights. No mention of BA codeshares on EI.
AA and BA have an alliance, and a joint business agreement, but it's far from seamless. Shoot.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e...es/british.jsp
Earn AA miles on BA flights (operated and marketed by BA) plus BA codeshares on other OW member flights. No mention of BA codeshares on EI.
AA and BA have an alliance, and a joint business agreement, but it's far from seamless. Shoot.
Apr 21, 2013, 4:35 pm
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That makes eminent sense - in general one will not earn AAdvantage miles or points on oneworld codeshares operated by non-oneworld airlines.
And to have been granted lounge access, you would have to be continuing on on a oneworld flight.
And to have been granted lounge access, you would have to be continuing on on a oneworld flight.
I used my AA number.
I booked via BA (ba.com)
I had a connection from LHR to DUB on Aer Lingus metal.
I received miles for IAD to LHR on BA metal on my AA account, and also LHR back to IAD. However, the inbound and outbound from LHR to DUB on Aer Lingus metal...I didn't get any miles.
Is this how it works/is this supposed to happen?
Also, I wasn't able to use the lounge from LHR to DUB too since my flight was on Aer Lingus...
Everything was booked through BA's website though...
I booked via BA (ba.com)
I had a connection from LHR to DUB on Aer Lingus metal.
I received miles for IAD to LHR on BA metal on my AA account, and also LHR back to IAD. However, the inbound and outbound from LHR to DUB on Aer Lingus metal...I didn't get any miles.
Is this how it works/is this supposed to happen?
Also, I wasn't able to use the lounge from LHR to DUB too since my flight was on Aer Lingus...
Everything was booked through BA's website though...
Apr 22, 2013, 12:34 pm
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Aw shucks. BA had an option for all BA metal too! Should have taken it. I guess I was hoping for too much...two degrees of separation of partnerships to gain AA miles :P
Apr 22, 2013, 12:47 pm
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Yep; they're not even kissing cousins in this situation. 
Then again, that's exactly why there is a FlyerTalk - I will bet a number of us lost miles because of a low fare, an ineligible codeshare, etc. (I know I have in the past) until we came hear to learn, and more effectively earn and burn.
Then again, that's exactly why there is a FlyerTalk - I will bet a number of us lost miles because of a low fare, an ineligible codeshare, etc. (I know I have in the past) until we came hear to learn, and more effectively earn and burn.
Apr 22, 2013, 6:23 pm
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I'm in an EXP match (from UA 1k) and need 25,000 POINTS. I booked ICN-HKG-LHR-DUB/DUB-LHR-ICN in Business through AA (all on BA flight numbers) to maximize points, then found that CX (ICR-HKG) doesn't count, nor the LHR-DUB R/T (due to EI). With other flights, I'll make the 90-day window for 25,000 points, but just barely. Wish I had known about EI earlier as I could have been on BA metal to/from Ireland.
Apr 22, 2013, 7:20 pm
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If you booked CX as a BA flight number, shouldn't it count? EI definitely would not, but CX is a oneworld airline.
I'm in an EXP match (from UA 1k) and need 25,000 POINTS. I booked ICN-HKG-LHR-DUB/DUB-LHR-ICN in Business through AA (all on BA flight numbers) to maximize points, then found that CX (ICR-HKG) doesn't count, nor the LHR-DUB R/T (due to EI). With other flights, I'll make the 90-day window for 25,000 points, but just barely. Wish I had known about EI earlier as I could have been on BA metal to/from Ireland.
Apr 22, 2013, 7:25 pm
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I'll get the miles, but not the points (it's in the fine print of the match); this defeats the purpose of getting points.
Apr 22, 2013, 8:22 pm
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S/he'll earn the points for normal AAdvantage status purposes, but they apparently won't qualify for the points required for the required by the terms and conditions of the status match.
Apr 22, 2013, 11:51 pm
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JDiver is correct: this is from my e-mail granting the status match:
* Travel on eligible airlines includes American Airlines, American
Eagle, the AmericanConnection® carrier, British Airways, Iberia, Japan
Airlines, and Qantas flights, as well as eligible codeshare flights.
Bonus elite-qualifying points do not count toward your qualification for
this offer. You must re-qualify for AAdvantage elite status membership
annually.
It's the "eligible codeshare flights" part; AA told me that Aer Lingus isn't O/W, so the BA codeshare isn't eligible for the AA EXP match.
* Travel on eligible airlines includes American Airlines, American
Eagle, the AmericanConnection® carrier, British Airways, Iberia, Japan
Airlines, and Qantas flights, as well as eligible codeshare flights.
Bonus elite-qualifying points do not count toward your qualification for
this offer. You must re-qualify for AAdvantage elite status membership
annually.
It's the "eligible codeshare flights" part; AA told me that Aer Lingus isn't O/W, so the BA codeshare isn't eligible for the AA EXP match.
Apr 24, 2013, 8:48 am
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So elite points/miles aside...I'm gonna be grasping for straws for this one:
Should the EI legs from LHR to DUB and back to LHR with a BA codeshare but EI metal...should those count for MM miles?
The only reason why I'm bringing this up is because with JetBlue, a non-OW airline, I got MM credit and reward credit, but no elite credit.
Should the EI legs from LHR to DUB and back to LHR with a BA codeshare but EI metal...should those count for MM miles?
The only reason why I'm bringing this up is because with JetBlue, a non-OW airline, I got MM credit and reward credit, but no elite credit.
Apr 24, 2013, 9:33 am
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So elite points/miles aside...I'm gonna be grasping for straws for this one:
Should the EI legs from LHR to DUB and back to LHR with a BA codeshare but EI metal...should those count for MM miles?
The only reason why I'm bringing this up is because with JetBlue, a non-OW airline, I got MM credit and reward credit, but no elite credit.
Should the EI legs from LHR to DUB and back to LHR with a BA codeshare but EI metal...should those count for MM miles?
The only reason why I'm bringing this up is because with JetBlue, a non-OW airline, I got MM credit and reward credit, but no elite credit.
EI metal with BA codeshare is eligible for Avios.
AA and jetBlue have a mileage agreement, and thus, AA miles can be earned on B6 flights. AA and EI have no agreement.
Apr 24, 2013, 10:07 am
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In a word, no.
So elite points/miles aside...I'm gonna be grasping for straws for this one:
Should the EI legs from LHR to DUB and back to LHR with a BA codeshare but EI metal...should those count for MM miles?
The only reason why I'm bringing this up is because with JetBlue, a non-OW airline, I got MM credit and reward credit, but no elite credit.
Should the EI legs from LHR to DUB and back to LHR with a BA codeshare but EI metal...should those count for MM miles?
The only reason why I'm bringing this up is because with JetBlue, a non-OW airline, I got MM credit and reward credit, but no elite credit.