Co-terminal awards?
Aug 10, 2009, 3:13 pm
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Co-terminal awards?
I'm holding three tickets (2 pd, on Z award) DCA-DFW. We'd like to add another person using another Z award, though our original flights now have no Z availability. There are Z seats on roughly equivalent-timed IAD-DFW round trips. Can we book the IAD-DFW trip and then change to DCA for no fee or would that require a full reissue?
Other alternative would be to do AAnytime ex-DCA, though that wouldn't be the ideal.
Other alternative would be to do AAnytime ex-DCA, though that wouldn't be the ideal.
Aug 10, 2009, 5:52 pm
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Offically, once ticketed IAD - DFW a change to DCA - DFW will be a $150 change fee. That said there are agents who let that kind of change slide.
Offically, once ticketed IAD - DFW a change to DCA - DFW will be a $150 change fee. That said there are agents who let that kind of change slide.
Aug 10, 2009, 5:58 pm
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Coterminal technically applies only if the detailed fare rules state as such.
Interestingly, I just bought a normal domestic L fare ex-JFK and there was a special endorsement in the fare rules: JFK ONLY. I've never seen that before! Virtually every ticket has said that NYC=JFK/LGA/etc and I can stand by from anywhere listed. Never had it restricted to a single station before.
Coterminal technically applies only if the detailed fare rules state as such.
Interestingly, I just bought a normal domestic L fare ex-JFK and there was a special endorsement in the fare rules: JFK ONLY. I've never seen that before! Virtually every ticket has said that NYC=JFK/LGA/etc and I can stand by from anywhere listed. Never had it restricted to a single station before.
Aug 10, 2009, 6:19 pm
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Coterminal technically applies only if the detailed fare rules state as such.
Interestingly, I just bought a normal domestic L fare ex-JFK and there was a special endorsement in the fare rules: JFK ONLY. I've never seen that before! Virtually every ticket has said that NYC=JFK/LGA/etc and I can stand by from anywhere listed. Never had it restricted to a single station before.
Coterminal technically applies only if the detailed fare rules state as such.
Interestingly, I just bought a normal domestic L fare ex-JFK and there was a special endorsement in the fare rules: JFK ONLY. I've never seen that before! Virtually every ticket has said that NYC=JFK/LGA/etc and I can stand by from anywhere listed. Never had it restricted to a single station before.
The co-terminal rules for paid and award tickets are different. You are entitled on an award ticket to use a very broad set of domestic coterminals (see one recent thread on booking to Hawaii through Los Angeles, arriving BUR and departing via connection at LAX; that's allowed). As for the original question from the OP, "does a change of co-terminal at the connection point equal a change of routing for award-change fee purposes?", I don't know. Does "routing" mean airport or city?
Aug 10, 2009, 6:54 pm
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Offically, once ticketed IAD - DFW a change to DCA - DFW will be a $150 change fee. That said there are agents who let that kind of change slide.
Offically, once ticketed IAD - DFW a change to DCA - DFW will be a $150 change fee. That said there are agents who let that kind of change slide.
Aug 10, 2009, 7:04 pm
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Either would be a non-stop routing, I just can't seem to find anything clarifying the fare rules... perhaps that's a function of an early flight this morning.
Aug 10, 2009, 7:10 pm
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oops, I mis-read the original and thought that WAS was a connecting point not a terminal. Please do ask about whether changing the award ticket would be allowed fee-free; it seems like a question many will have use of an answer for. The paid tickets, as you note, will all depend on the fine print in the fare rules.
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If there are no Z seats available DCA-DFW, how could you change a Z ticket IAD-DFW to a Z ticket DCA-DFW, even if it an agent were to allow the change with no fee? If you are asking if you could standby at DCA while holding a Z-ticket IAD-DFW, that is another question, but do you really want to risk that? Am I missing something here?
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If there are no Z seats available DCA-DFW, how could you change a Z ticket IAD-DFW to a Z ticket DCA-DFW, even if it an agent were to allow the change with no fee? If you are asking if you could standby at DCA while holding a Z-ticket IAD-DFW, that is another question, but do you really want to risk that? Am I missing something here?
Aug 11, 2009, 7:49 am
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If there are no Z seats available DCA-DFW, how could you change a Z ticket IAD-DFW to a Z ticket DCA-DFW, even if it an agent were to allow the change with no fee? If you are asking if you could standby at DCA while holding a Z-ticket IAD-DFW, that is another question, but do you really want to risk that? Am I missing something here?
Aug 11, 2009, 7:52 am
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Per the rules you will be charged the $150 USD. Some agents overlook this. Some do not.
Aug 11, 2009, 2:24 pm
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A $150 USD charge (subject to change without notice) will apply for a confirmed change to an eligible origin or destination on a MileSAAver award. Changes to an eligible origin or destination on AAnytime awards are allowed at no charge.
In air ticketing jargon, isn't point of "origin" a city rather than an airport?
As a side observation: the rule as stated on the linked page appears to omit routing changes, a separate issue but one that definitely used to incur a fee specifically-- I can't seem to find the previous rule version, but didn't it say something about changes to cities or routing costing, but time and date changes being free?
Aug 11, 2009, 2:58 pm
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I had a similar situation last month, where I was late enough booking an intl U saver award to CDG that I had to fly through BOS. I phoned AA to ask whether I could switch to a JFK departure without penalty if a seat opened up. As my connecting flight originated from LGA the agent said that would incur a change fee.