Oct 24, 2015, 1:56 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
AA and the LAX TBIT - Tom Bradley International Terminal
AA has four TBIT gates, and some international and domestic flights depart there
AA has four TBIT gates, and some international and domestic flights depart there
There is currently one way to transfer airside between AA Terminal 4 and TBIT: The airside connector. See LAX AA T-4 - TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016
There is a oneworld Alliance lounge accessible to those departing on eligible oneworld marketed and operated flights, operated by Qantas (not a Qantas Club) and Qantas First lounge within. These are not open to Admirals Club members unless they are departing on qualified flights.
American Airlines AAdvantage® members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for (oneworld) lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
Updated 03 Oct 2016 - JD
Some AA domestic flights departing LAX TBIT "international" terminal
Aug 10, 2015, 12:24 am
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It depends on what, if anything, AA has told the non AA oneworld lounges in North America.
Aug 10, 2015, 1:11 am
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AA elites don't receive complimentary lounge access to AA lounges on domestic itineraries. AA members could, in theory, access the oneworld J lounge or QF F lounge in TBIT under oneworld rules. Access would be entirely up to the lounge staff at the time.
It depends on what, if anything, AA has told the non AA oneworld lounges in North America.
It depends on what, if anything, AA has told the non AA oneworld lounges in North America.
The following exceptions apply:
2. American Airlines AAdvantage® members and US Airways Dividend Miles members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
The rules do suggest (via the lack of a relevant exception in that section) you might get access if you are flying first class. But I suspect I'm missing something.
Aug 10, 2015, 1:32 am
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Aug 10, 2015, 7:31 am
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That is exactly my point. If AA starts operating a significant number of domestic flights from TBIT BEFORE the connector opens, there will be a big disadvantage for paid AC members and also for those who are eligible for lounge access under AA's internal lounge access policies (such as transcon, active military on orders, etc) because there will not be a lounge in TBIT that has the same policies.
Aug 10, 2015, 8:30 am
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AA elites don't receive complimentary lounge access to AA lounges on domestic itineraries. AA members could, in theory, access the oneworld J lounge or QF F lounge in TBIT under oneworld rules. Access would be entirely up to the lounge staff at the time.
It depends on what, if anything, AA has told the non AA oneworld lounges in North America.
It depends on what, if anything, AA has told the non AA oneworld lounges in North America.
Aug 10, 2015, 3:50 pm
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All F passengers flying MIA-LAX receive complimentary lounge access regardless of elite status or how they paid for their F ticket (paid/elite upgrade/miles). MIA departures are the most common from TBIT, so lounge access is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed, if it hasn't already.
Aug 10, 2015, 9:57 pm
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All F passengers flying MIA-LAX receive complimentary lounge access regardless of elite status or how they paid for their F ticket (paid/elite upgrade/miles). MIA departures are the most common from TBIT, so lounge access is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed, if it hasn't already.
In all seriousness they have figured it out in T6 with reciprocal AS Board Room access. Feel they could figure something out here. While my experience is limited I do not think the OW lounge in TBIT is too crowded during the day. Just later at night
Aug 11, 2015, 2:09 am
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All F passengers flying MIA-LAX receive complimentary lounge access regardless of elite status or how they paid for their F ticket (paid/elite upgrade/miles). MIA departures are the most common from TBIT, so lounge access is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed, if it hasn't already.
True, but that complimentary transcon lounge access is an AA-specific policy and has nothing to do with oneworld. AA does not operate any of its own lounges in TBIT. So, the oneworld partners operating the lounges there will not recognize MIA-LAX F passengers as eligible to use the lounges (unless they have non-AA OW status or are connecting from/to an eligible international OW flight in F/J).
Aug 11, 2015, 2:25 am
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True, but that complimentary transcon lounge access is an AA-specific policy and has nothing to do with oneworld. AA does not operate any of its own lounges in TBIT. So, the oneworld partners operating the lounges there will not recognize MIA-LAX F passengers as eligible to use the lounges (unless they have non-AA OW status or are connecting from/to an eligible international OW flight in F/J).
Aug 11, 2015, 2:44 am
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I guess so. QF will start to get some revenue for letting AA pax into its lounges!! (or perhaps they will renegotiate the current deal....presumably currently AA gets some revenue from QF every time QF pax enter the AC over in T4)
Aug 11, 2015, 4:37 am
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All F passengers flying MIA-LAX receive complimentary lounge access regardless of elite status or how they paid for their F ticket (paid/elite upgrade/miles). MIA departures are the most common from TBIT, so lounge access is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed, if it hasn't already.
"First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines or US Airways lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights...customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access."
The wording seems to suggest that lounge access is possible as long as its not an AA/US lounge. Further, transcon routes are eligible for lounge access.
Anyone else read differently?
Aug 11, 2015, 7:40 am
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Slightly ot, but on a related note, was anyone able to access the QF F lounge flying transcon F as an EXP? I feel like from the wording on oneworld.com it seem to be permitted, bolding mine:
"First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines or US Airways lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights...customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access."
The wording seems to suggest that lounge access is possible as long as its not an AA/US lounge. Further, transcon routes are eligible for lounge access.
Anyone else read differently?
"First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines or US Airways lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights...customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access."
The wording seems to suggest that lounge access is possible as long as its not an AA/US lounge. Further, transcon routes are eligible for lounge access.
Anyone else read differently?
Aug 29, 2015, 4:34 pm
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Today's transfer to AA 1297 LAX-MIA required re-clearing security at TBIT with no TSA pre-check (why should TSA, as almost all departures are international?) and no first/premium class line.
Thankfully, the lines were short. But since AA sent out message to get TSA pre-check for five years and $85, rather than have no pre-check show up on your BP occasionally, it is agravating to be forced to change terminals and go to one without pre-check at one of the world's largest airports.
Solution, add the shuttle stop. Yes, there is a wait of a max 15 minutes @44, but leaving T-4, walking over, going to rear of ticketing, waiting in line, taking off shoes, belts, etc. Good grief. Nine times out of ten it will save time and aggravation.
Thankfully, the lines were short. But since AA sent out message to get TSA pre-check for five years and $85, rather than have no pre-check show up on your BP occasionally, it is agravating to be forced to change terminals and go to one without pre-check at one of the world's largest airports.
Solution, add the shuttle stop. Yes, there is a wait of a max 15 minutes @44, but leaving T-4, walking over, going to rear of ticketing, waiting in line, taking off shoes, belts, etc. Good grief. Nine times out of ten it will save time and aggravation.
Aug 30, 2015, 4:13 pm
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Today's transfer to AA 1297 LAX-MIA required re-clearing security at TBIT with no TSA pre-check (why should TSA, as almost all departures are international?) and no first/premium class line.
Thankfully, the lines were short. But since AA sent out message to get TSA pre-check for five years and $85, rather than have no pre-check show up on your BP occasionally, it is agravating to be forced to change terminals and go to one without pre-check at one of the world's largest airports.
Solution, add the shuttle stop. Yes, there is a wait of a max 15 minutes @44, but leaving T-4, walking over, going to rear of ticketing, waiting in line, taking off shoes, belts, etc. Good grief. Nine times out of ten it will save time and aggravation.
Thankfully, the lines were short. But since AA sent out message to get TSA pre-check for five years and $85, rather than have no pre-check show up on your BP occasionally, it is agravating to be forced to change terminals and go to one without pre-check at one of the world's largest airports.
Solution, add the shuttle stop. Yes, there is a wait of a max 15 minutes @44, but leaving T-4, walking over, going to rear of ticketing, waiting in line, taking off shoes, belts, etc. Good grief. Nine times out of ten it will save time and aggravation.
Sep 1, 2015, 12:09 pm
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Although it's a couple of months old, this seems to be the latest report on LAWA's website. On page 39, it projects that the walkway will be completed in late February and the whole connector project in late May. Not clear exactly when that means the walkway is expected to be open to the public.
Program Status Report newsletter 5/31/15
Program Status Report newsletter 5/31/15
Latest target date is 25 May 16, but status is "Requires Mitigation"
The project schedule was impacted by the discovery of
unknown utilities which necessitated re-designing the
foundation in the landside area. The project team is working
with the contractor to mitigate any further delay
unknown utilities which necessitated re-designing the
foundation in the landside area. The project team is working
with the contractor to mitigate any further delay