AA baggage handlers theft from baggage and trafficking drugs - how widespread?
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AA baggage handlers theft from baggage and trafficking drugs - how widespread?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/10/ny...ted=1&_r=1&hpw
"Testimony at Mr. Bourne’s trial in Federal District Court in Brooklyn during September and October revealed a culture of corruption among some baggage handlers at Kennedy. They stowed drugs in secret panels inside planes; stole laptops, lobsters and fine clothing flown as freight; and rifled through passengers’ belongings for perfume, liquor and electronics.
“ ‘Everybody did it.’ That’s a line that a lot of the witnesses said,” recalled Rebecca Grefski, a juror at Mr. Bourne’s trial...
In November 2010, four part-time baggage handlers for American Airlines were arrested on charges of stealing valuables from luggage at Philadelphia International Airport. Detectives working with airline security officials set up surveillance cameras and said they caught the workers taking electronics, cameras and jewelry from passengers’ bags. Three of them pleaded guilty, and the fourth is awaiting trial....
the Transportation Security Administration received about 6,750 reports of property missing from checked baggage...From 2002 to 2010, American Airlines generated more such reports than any other airline...
Yet the testimony in Mr. Bourne’s trial suggested that a serious problem seemed to exist at American Airlines. “What percent of American Airlines employees would you say engaged in this conduct?” a federal prosecutor, Patricia E. Notopoulos, asked Matthew James, a defendant in the case who pleaded guilty and testified for the prosecution. “About 80 percent,” Mr. James answered..."
Do you think this problem is widespread and worse at AA than other airlines? What precautions do you take when checking luggage? Maybe I should look into a luggage lock...I've never locked my checked luggage, but I also don't pack any valuables in my checked luggage.
"Testimony at Mr. Bourne’s trial in Federal District Court in Brooklyn during September and October revealed a culture of corruption among some baggage handlers at Kennedy. They stowed drugs in secret panels inside planes; stole laptops, lobsters and fine clothing flown as freight; and rifled through passengers’ belongings for perfume, liquor and electronics.
“ ‘Everybody did it.’ That’s a line that a lot of the witnesses said,” recalled Rebecca Grefski, a juror at Mr. Bourne’s trial...
In November 2010, four part-time baggage handlers for American Airlines were arrested on charges of stealing valuables from luggage at Philadelphia International Airport. Detectives working with airline security officials set up surveillance cameras and said they caught the workers taking electronics, cameras and jewelry from passengers’ bags. Three of them pleaded guilty, and the fourth is awaiting trial....
the Transportation Security Administration received about 6,750 reports of property missing from checked baggage...From 2002 to 2010, American Airlines generated more such reports than any other airline...
Yet the testimony in Mr. Bourne’s trial suggested that a serious problem seemed to exist at American Airlines. “What percent of American Airlines employees would you say engaged in this conduct?” a federal prosecutor, Patricia E. Notopoulos, asked Matthew James, a defendant in the case who pleaded guilty and testified for the prosecution. “About 80 percent,” Mr. James answered..."
Do you think this problem is widespread and worse at AA than other airlines? What precautions do you take when checking luggage? Maybe I should look into a luggage lock...I've never locked my checked luggage, but I also don't pack any valuables in my checked luggage.
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Luggage locks are useless. Half the people on this forum know how to remove items from a locked suitcase without leaving any tracks; what do you think the percentage is amongst baggage handlers?
IMO the only way to safeguard against theft is not to check anything worth stealing.
IMO the only way to safeguard against theft is not to check anything worth stealing.
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While googling to learn about theft from bags in anticipation of a trip to SA (where the problem is said to be even worse) I think I learned that TSA locks in particular were worse than useless because they provided a false sense of security, while in fact those TSA 'master keys' were trivial to create. So start with a non-TSA lock and carry a couple of spares in case they cut one off.
Beyond that, plastic wrap was a frequent suggestion (seldom done in US airports, and not very TSA-friendly), locks that exposed an "I have been opened" flag, but not much really useful. (Immobilizing zipper pulls so that after a zipper breach the perp won't be able to use them to to re-zip and cover his tracks.)
Beyond that, plastic wrap was a frequent suggestion (seldom done in US airports, and not very TSA-friendly), locks that exposed an "I have been opened" flag, but not much really useful. (Immobilizing zipper pulls so that after a zipper breach the perp won't be able to use them to to re-zip and cover his tracks.)
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Than again it is simple to follow the tip instructions provided at aa.com
As to the OPs question I'm not sure but it seems to me thievery is more widespread with TSA employees than AA. A lot more TSA agents have been arrested for theft than baggage handlers from airlines. Would surmise that the defendant used the ploy everyone did it in some miscontrued belief that saying it would somehow make others believe they did nothing wrong.
Knowing that theft is possible when traveling I follow precautions like the aa recommendation no matter what airline it is if it becomes necessary to check luggage.
Pack your photo ID, medicine, prescription, cash, keys, jewelry, electronics, film and cameras in your carry-on baggage — not your checked baggage
Knowing that theft is possible when traveling I follow precautions like the aa recommendation no matter what airline it is if it becomes necessary to check luggage.
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What next for AA? AA is the new Eastern
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List of TSA agents busted? Make sure to scroll down and check out the map.
I still believe the statement by the defendant was an ill-conceived attempt to justify his actions to the jury. It is the biggest excuse probably used by every child when growing up. Everybody else is doing it
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Well before I got into the FF game I had heard that JFK baggage handling was notorious for theft. Sometimes you have no choice but to check a bag, but unfortunately it's asking for trouble to send anything irreplaceable into the maws of the baggage handlers.
I have to carry a fair amount of paperwork in addition to my personal valuables--P&S camera, old iPod, old cell phone... I don't travel with valuable jewelry and I don't rush to update my toys because things do disappear on the road. My paperwork doesn't hold state or corporate secrets but it would be really bad if it disappeared so I hoist it into the overhead.
Any bag I check is an ordinary non-designer beat-up suitcase -- designer luggage like Tumi or Vuitton just screams "steal me." It would be nice if we could trust the integrity of our checked luggage, but it will take a major sea change for that to happen. This insecurity predates the TSA, BTW.
I have to carry a fair amount of paperwork in addition to my personal valuables--P&S camera, old iPod, old cell phone... I don't travel with valuable jewelry and I don't rush to update my toys because things do disappear on the road. My paperwork doesn't hold state or corporate secrets but it would be really bad if it disappeared so I hoist it into the overhead.
Any bag I check is an ordinary non-designer beat-up suitcase -- designer luggage like Tumi or Vuitton just screams "steal me." It would be nice if we could trust the integrity of our checked luggage, but it will take a major sea change for that to happen. This insecurity predates the TSA, BTW.
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I cannot imagine why, in this day and age, anyone in their right mind would put any kind of valuables (laptops!) in checked baggage. If you have something valuable, put it in carryon luggage and take it on board the aircraft with you.
If you have something valuable that cannot be carried on board, then ship it ahead as insured and traceable freight. Get creative with paperwork. Can it be shipped ahead? Scanned into PDFs? Printed out at the destination?
All my electronics go with me on board. My checked bag has only easily-replaced clothing.
If you have something valuable that cannot be carried on board, then ship it ahead as insured and traceable freight. Get creative with paperwork. Can it be shipped ahead? Scanned into PDFs? Printed out at the destination?
All my electronics go with me on board. My checked bag has only easily-replaced clothing.
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PK, some good comments here, such as not putting valuables in your checked luggage and always carrying them aboard. Some baggage handlers and TSA staffers steal like a hungry jackal and lie like a cheap rug.
But... what do I do with those LOBSTERS?
But... what do I do with those LOBSTERS?
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And it doesn't really matter to me whether the stealing is being done by TSA or AA employees. Gone is gone.
He who steals from my checked luggage steals trash, to paraphrase Shakespeare.
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Be that as it may, there are various simple steps one can take to reduce the chances of becoming a crime victim. Putting valuable possessions in carryon luggage and putting less valuable stuff in checked luggage is one simple step. If that is not possible, shipping valuables to the destination via insured, traceable freight is another.
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Carry on isn't a choice on regional jets.