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The U.K. Air Passenger Duty / APD is "a duty of Excise which is levied on the carriage, from a UK airport, of chargeable passengers on chargeable aircraft... The amount due is dependent on the final destination and class of travel of the chargeable passenger... The reduced rates apply where the passengers are carried in the lowest class of travel on any flight unless the seat pitch exceeds 1.016 metres (40 inches), in which case, whether there is one or more than one class of travel the standard rates apply." Link. Those in transit from other countries are exempt.
As of 01 Apr 2012, the APD is:As of 01 Apr 2013 will be:
The U.K. Air Passenger Duty / APD is "a duty of Excise which is levied on the carriage, from a UK airport, of chargeable passengers on chargeable aircraft... The amount due is dependent on the final destination and class of travel of the chargeable passenger... The reduced rates apply where the passengers are carried in the lowest class of travel on any flight unless the seat pitch exceeds 1.016 metres (40 inches), in which case, whether there is one or more than one class of travel the standard rates apply." Link. Those in transit from other countries are exempt.
As of 01 Apr 2012, the APD is:
- Band A (0 to 2,000 miles): Reduced 13, Standard 26
- Band B (2,001 to 4,000 miles) (e.g. USA, Canada): Reduced 65, Standard 130
- Band C (4,001 to 6,000 miles): Reduced 81, Standard 162
- Band D (over 6,000 miles): Reduced 92, Standard 184
- Band A (0 to 2,000 miles) 13 Reduced, 26 Standard (no change)
- Band B (2,001 to 4,000 miles) (e.g. USA, Canada): Reduced 62, Standard 134
- Band C (4,001 to 6,000 miles): Reduced 83, Standard 166
- Band D (over 6,000 miles): Reduced 94, Standard 188
UK APD / Air Passenger Duty and increases again - Apr 1 2012
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UK APD / Air Passenger Duty and increases again - Apr 1 2012
APD is on its way up and will impact on the additional cost when upgrading from economy using miles
Current costs are GBP40 for economy and GBP80 for J/F so if upgrading from economy , there is an additional GBP40 to pay
From November 2009
2001-4000 miles , the rates will be GBP45 and GBP90 so an increase of GBP5/GBP10
4001-6000 miles, the rates will be GBP50 and GBP100 so an increase of GBP10/GBP20
It will increase again in November 2010 ( see http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/pbr2008/pbrn20.pdf )
This is not directly related to AA, but since it has an impact on the additional costs when upgrading, thought it might be relevent
Dave
Rising Air Passenger Duty, c/o The Telegraph (2012 rise to be implemented April 1, 2012)
Table from Austinrunner's post #2-4
The air passenger duty rates are going up around 8 percent across-the-board effective 1 April 2012. The per person rates are as follows:
Band A (0 to 2,000 miles)
.....Economy 13 (new) 12 (old)
.....Premium 26 (new) 24 (old)
Band B (2,001 to 4,000 miles) (examples: USA, Canada)
.....Economy 65 (new) 60 (old)
.....Premium 130 (new) 120 (old)
Band C (4,001 to 6,000 miles)
.....Economy 81 (new) 75 (old)
.....Premium 162 (new) 150 (old)
Band D (over 6,000 miles)
.....Economy 92 (new) 85 (old)
.....Premium 184 (new) 170 (old)
The band for an entire country is determined by the distance between London and the capital city of the final destination country or territory (except for Russia, which is split east and west of the Urals). For the regulations, refer to:
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...yType=document
Appendix 1 in the above link lists each country and its assigned band (except that Band D includes every country not listed in another band).
Link to FT Post: Question: Must I pay APD if turning around (e.g. M.R.) at LHR in less than 24 hours?
New thread for 2013 changes: UK APD / Air Passenger Duty and increases - again 1 Apr 2013
Current costs are GBP40 for economy and GBP80 for J/F so if upgrading from economy , there is an additional GBP40 to pay
From November 2009
2001-4000 miles , the rates will be GBP45 and GBP90 so an increase of GBP5/GBP10
4001-6000 miles, the rates will be GBP50 and GBP100 so an increase of GBP10/GBP20
It will increase again in November 2010 ( see http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/pbr2008/pbrn20.pdf )
This is not directly related to AA, but since it has an impact on the additional costs when upgrading, thought it might be relevent
Dave
Moderator note
Rising Air Passenger Duty, c/o The Telegraph (2012 rise to be implemented April 1, 2012)
Table from Austinrunner's post #2-4
The air passenger duty rates are going up around 8 percent across-the-board effective 1 April 2012. The per person rates are as follows:
Band A (0 to 2,000 miles)
.....Economy 13 (new) 12 (old)
.....Premium 26 (new) 24 (old)
Band B (2,001 to 4,000 miles) (examples: USA, Canada)
.....Economy 65 (new) 60 (old)
.....Premium 130 (new) 120 (old)
Band C (4,001 to 6,000 miles)
.....Economy 81 (new) 75 (old)
.....Premium 162 (new) 150 (old)
Band D (over 6,000 miles)
.....Economy 92 (new) 85 (old)
.....Premium 184 (new) 170 (old)
The band for an entire country is determined by the distance between London and the capital city of the final destination country or territory (except for Russia, which is split east and west of the Urals). For the regulations, refer to:
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...yType=document
Appendix 1 in the above link lists each country and its assigned band (except that Band D includes every country not listed in another band).
Link to FT Post: Question: Must I pay APD if turning around (e.g. M.R.) at LHR in less than 24 hours?
New thread for 2013 changes: UK APD / Air Passenger Duty and increases - again 1 Apr 2013
Last edited by JDiver; Dec 5, 2012 at 8:44 pm Reason: modify mod note
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Thanks for the update, Dave. I assume that the additional APD will still be waived for valid connections, and only apply for originations, as currently?
Cheers.
Cheers.
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Although you will all benefit (yeah right!) from UK VAT being 15% for the next 13 months rather than 17.5%. Can't see many companies passing it on - although ticket prices on AA should be 2.13% cheaper for UK tickets.
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Now: ----- Y/J: £40/80 (upgrade £40)
1-Nov-09: Y/J: £45/90 (upgrade £45)
1-Nov-10: Y/J: £60/120 (upgrade £60)
The tax will be higher if connecting in the US to another country in Band C or D (countries other than Canada).
It seems that the intention to tax aircraft rather than pax did not work out.
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Hmmm, how much are those Chunnel tickets to Paris? The amounts are hight now, the'll be horrendous after Nov 1 2010 ...
The new bands and the rates of duty for 2009-10 and 2010-11 are as
follows:
follows:
Code:
Band, and approximate In the lowest class of In other than the distance in miles from travel lowest class of (Reduced rate) travel*(Standard rate) 2009-10 2010-11 2009-10 2010-11 Band A (0 - 2000) £11 £12 £22 £24 Band B (2001 - 4000) £45 £60 £90 £120 Band C (4001 - 6000) £50 £75 £100 £150 Band D (over 6000) £55 £85 £110 £170 * (However if only one class of travel is available and that class provides for seating in excess of 40" then the standard (rather than the reduced) rate of APD applies).
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I don't know which band is which, but if there's really a distinction between 2001-4000 miles and 4001-6000 miles, then some places (e.g., JFK, BOS, ORD, <4000 miles) will be in one category and others (e.g., DFW, LAX >4000 miles) will be in the other category.
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It's based on the location of the capital city of the destination country, so will make no difference to which US city you are flying (thank goodness the capital is located East coast rather than West)!!
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Well at least the dollar has rebounded against the pound (for the moment, fingers crossed) so it definitely makes these easier to swallow for now
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I am sure that the additional money will be used for enhancement of the enviromental projects that were started as the result of the last APD increase / justification.
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Time to BUMP this topic - the end is near!
Hi, folks,
Another thread discusses the increase of APD in 2007. As you plan your UK travel or stopovers with connections, remember it will cost you more... and more!
What passengers will have to pay in Air Passenger Duty
Band A (0 - 2000 miles from London)
Includes: Europe, Algeria, Greenland, Libya, Morocco, Tunisia
Previously
Economy cabins 10
Premium cabins 20
November 2009
Economy cabins 11
Premium cabins 22
November 2010
Economy cabins 12
Premium cabins 24
Band B (2001-4000 miles)
Includes: Bermuda, Canada, Egypt, Gambia, Jordan, Oman, Russia (east of Urals), Syria, UAE, USA
Previously
Economy cabins 40
Premium cabins 80
November 2009
Economy cabins 45
Premium cabins 90
November 2010
Economy cabins 60 (~USD $96)
Premium cabins 120 (~USD $192.)[/B]
Band C (4001-6000 miles)
Includes: Botswana, Brazil, Caribbean, China, India, Japan, Kenya, Maldives, Mauritius, Mexico, Seychelles, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Thailand
Previously
Economy cabins 40
Premium cabins 80
November 2009
Economy cabins 50
Premium cabins 100
November 2010
Economy cabins 75
Premium cabins 150
Band D (more than 6000 miles)
Includes: Argentina, Australia, Chile, Fiji, Indonesia, Malaysia, Peru, Singapore
Previously
Economy cabins 40
Premium cabins 80
November 2009
Economy cabins 55
Premium cabins 110
November 2010
Economy cabins 85
Premium cabins 170
Another thread discusses the increase of APD in 2007. As you plan your UK travel or stopovers with connections, remember it will cost you more... and more!
What passengers will have to pay in Air Passenger Duty
Band A (0 - 2000 miles from London)
Includes: Europe, Algeria, Greenland, Libya, Morocco, Tunisia
Previously
Economy cabins 10
Premium cabins 20
November 2009
Economy cabins 11
Premium cabins 22
November 2010
Economy cabins 12
Premium cabins 24
Band B (2001-4000 miles)
Includes: Bermuda, Canada, Egypt, Gambia, Jordan, Oman, Russia (east of Urals), Syria, UAE, USA
Previously
Economy cabins 40
Premium cabins 80
November 2009
Economy cabins 45
Premium cabins 90
November 2010
Economy cabins 60 (~USD $96)
Premium cabins 120 (~USD $192.)[/B]
Band C (4001-6000 miles)
Includes: Botswana, Brazil, Caribbean, China, India, Japan, Kenya, Maldives, Mauritius, Mexico, Seychelles, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Thailand
Previously
Economy cabins 40
Premium cabins 80
November 2009
Economy cabins 50
Premium cabins 100
November 2010
Economy cabins 75
Premium cabins 150
Band D (more than 6000 miles)
Includes: Argentina, Australia, Chile, Fiji, Indonesia, Malaysia, Peru, Singapore
Previously
Economy cabins 40
Premium cabins 80
November 2009
Economy cabins 55
Premium cabins 110
November 2010
Economy cabins 85
Premium cabins 170
Last edited by JDiver; Nov 9, 2010 at 10:44 am
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Hi, folks,
Another thread discusses the increase of APD in 2007. As you plan your UK travel or stopovers with connections, remember it will cost you more... and more!
Another thread discusses the increase of APD in 2007. As you plan your UK travel or stopovers with connections, remember it will cost you more... and more!
Simple: Connect out of Dublin. If you can bear the pleasure that is FR for the UK to DUB segment this will save significant tax costs. UK tax on flights has reached the seriously ridiculous level.
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Where time permits, I've circumvented this outrageous bahksheesh by taking Eurostar to BRU or to CDG via Paris or Lille-- often enjoying a day in one of those cities.
When you consider that Eurostar can be less than the combined HEX + APD, and the incremental time difference is not that much greater, it is a nice alternative ^ to this paying ever increasing amounts of UK duty.
When you consider that Eurostar can be less than the combined HEX + APD, and the incremental time difference is not that much greater, it is a nice alternative ^ to this paying ever increasing amounts of UK duty.
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Luxury tax (LHR/CDG) using EVIPs
I've searched the threads and wasn't sure I have the correct answer.
I've traveled upgraded flights with a connection in LHR in the past and wasn't subjected to the luxury tax. Now I want to purchase a ticket from the U.S. to LHR, upgrade with EVIP and connect to a business class award ticket from LHR to NBO - no stop over either direction. A couple questions:
1. Given these are 2 distinct PNRs, am I subject to the tax and if so, is it both directions?
2. If I purchase a fare (ORD-LHR-BRU/FRA/ZRH) and then an award (BRU-LHR-NBO) would this avoid the tax? Even if I use a stop in BRU, FRA, or ZRH?
Thanks
I've traveled upgraded flights with a connection in LHR in the past and wasn't subjected to the luxury tax. Now I want to purchase a ticket from the U.S. to LHR, upgrade with EVIP and connect to a business class award ticket from LHR to NBO - no stop over either direction. A couple questions:
1. Given these are 2 distinct PNRs, am I subject to the tax and if so, is it both directions?
2. If I purchase a fare (ORD-LHR-BRU/FRA/ZRH) and then an award (BRU-LHR-NBO) would this avoid the tax? Even if I use a stop in BRU, FRA, or ZRH?
Thanks