American Eagle Pilot suspected of alcohol use detained at MSP
Jan 4, 2013, 9:10 am
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American Eagle Pilot suspected of alcohol use detained at MSP
Hi All,
I heard the news by this morning. He was arrested on suspicion of being under the influence of alcohol. He should not drinking the alcohol anymore. He failed the tested. He was taken to local hospital.
http://www.startribune.com/local/185653732.html
I think they will replace a new pilot later in the morning.
I heard the news by this morning. He was arrested on suspicion of being under the influence of alcohol. He should not drinking the alcohol anymore. He failed the tested. He was taken to local hospital.
http://www.startribune.com/local/185653732.html
I think they will replace a new pilot later in the morning.
Jan 4, 2013, 9:18 am
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... he has yet to receive any specific measurement for the pilot's level of intoxication. For pilots, the legal limit is 0.04 percent, half of what it is for motorists...
Jan 4, 2013, 9:20 am
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Jan 4, 2013, 10:07 am
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The media got it wrong (Gee, there's a shock). The legal limit set by the FAA is 0.019. The legal limmit for commercial vehicle operators is 0.04, which is probably where that figure comes from in the article (the media probably just looked up "commercial operator" and didn't bother to check whether that was a ground vehicle or an airplane). I believe the reason there is a limit of 0.02 is because things like mouthwash with alcohol can show up, or anything else that may cause a slight reading during a BAC test, even though judgement is not impaired. Pilots have (or at least are supposed) to abide by the 8 hour "bottle to throttle" rule when it comes to drinking. Some airlines have an even more strict policy of 12 hours (not sure about AA).
Jan 4, 2013, 10:18 am
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Bingo! Also things like those aerosol breath fresheners, and non drowsy cough medicines will cause a slight reaction on these tests. Considering failing one of this can ruin your career, it's a pretty fair limit.
Jan 4, 2013, 10:19 am
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Some perfectly allowable medications also have ethyl alcohol, though such medications can also cause reduced reaction times and the like. This is one of the reasons why states have legal limits above 0 for drivers under 21.
Jan 4, 2013, 11:09 am
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yep.. have spent one too many sober nights with my brother-in-law who flies AE because of the bottle to throttle rule..
The media got it wrong (Gee, there's a shock). The legal limit set by the FAA is 0.019. The legal limmit for commercial vehicle operators is 0.04, which is probably where that figure comes from in the article (the media probably just looked up "commercial operator" and didn't bother to check whether that was a ground vehicle or an airplane). I believe the reason there is a limit of 0.02 is because things like mouthwash with alcohol can show up, or anything else that may cause a slight reading during a BAC test, even though judgement is not impaired. Pilots have (or at least are supposed) to abide by the 8 hour "bottle to throttle" rule when it comes to drinking. Some airlines have an even more strict policy of 12 hours (not sure about AA).
Jan 4, 2013, 11:12 am
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Point of clarification:
It was an American Eagle pilot who was removed and arrested.
It was an American Eagle pilot who was removed and arrested.
Jan 4, 2013, 11:19 am
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Yes, it could be pretty bad to drive or fly after taking certain cold medicines that would show up on a breathalyzer. For example, I would not drive after taking NyQuil. On the occasions once or twice a year when I take it, I feel rather woozy afterward. Granted, I do not drink alcohol, so I'm sure I have an extremely low tolerance. But still, I don't like the feeling of not having full control of my faculties.
If the investigation concludes that the pilot in question did violate FAA regulations and airline policies relating to alcohol use by flight crews, I hope he faces fines and disciplinary action.
If the investigation concludes that the pilot in question did violate FAA regulations and airline policies relating to alcohol use by flight crews, I hope he faces fines and disciplinary action.
Jan 4, 2013, 11:34 am
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I didn't know AA flew MSP-LGA
Jan 4, 2013, 11:44 am
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AA doesn't. MQ does.
Actually, looking at the schedule, I noticed that MSP-LGA is all Eagle, while MSP-DFW and MSP-ORD, both considerably shorter routes, have mainline service. In fact, MSP-DFW is 100% mainline though it is 200 miles shorter than MSP-LGA. But I guess you can't compare markets that way....after all, AUS-DFW is mainline as well--who can figure that one out?!
Actually, looking at the schedule, I noticed that MSP-LGA is all Eagle, while MSP-DFW and MSP-ORD, both considerably shorter routes, have mainline service. In fact, MSP-DFW is 100% mainline though it is 200 miles shorter than MSP-LGA. But I guess you can't compare markets that way....after all, AUS-DFW is mainline as well--who can figure that one out?!
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Jan 4, 2013, 12:28 pm
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Jan 4, 2013, 12:34 pm
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I'm not sure you're feeling woozy because of the alcohol in Nyquil. Nyquil has active ingredients that make you drowsy so you can sleep better. I wouldn't drive after taking Nyquil either.
Jan 4, 2013, 12:45 pm
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