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Old Feb 12, 2016, 5:46 pm
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Booking Premium Economy on AF flight

Im trying to go from LIN-LAX...the flight when booking thru alitalia.com gives a flight that connects thru CDG and AF from CDG-LAX on A380...V fare class I believe. The alitalia website says its premium economy. Does this really book as a premium economy ticket on the AF A380?

Sorry if this has been asked, I couldn't find anything while searching.

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Old Feb 13, 2016, 10:49 am
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Hi there,

There are 2 important consideration - who is the marketing carrier (AZ flight number or AF flight number) and which class.

V class is economy on both AF and AZ. AZ premium economy classes are A and P; Whittle AF premium economy are in A, S, and W.

If you give us the dates and destinations I can check Expertflyer for filed fares on your dates and what the cheapest premium economy costs.
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 9:29 am
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Cool thanks! Going from LIN-LAX on Mar 11,2016. All I know is that it says "premium economy" it looks like V fare class but I can't say for sure and it looks like and AF flight woth AZ code share

Originally Posted by nufnuf77
Hi there,

There are 2 important consideration - who is the marketing carrier (AZ flight number or AF flight number) and which class.

V class is economy on both AF and AZ. AZ premium economy classes are A and P; Whittle AF premium economy are in A, S, and W.

If you give us the dates and destinations I can check Expertflyer for filed fares on your dates and what the cheapest premium economy costs.
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by tlow
Cool thanks! Going from LIN-LAX on Mar 11,2016. All I know is that it says "premium economy" it looks like V fare class but I can't say for sure and it looks like and AF flight woth AZ code share
OK, Here are the fares offered by EF. One thing to bear in mind is that AZ A fare is PE(not E) and AF (A,S are both PE not E).

These are the prices for return journey - base fares. You need to add the taxes and fuel surcharges on top of these.

Is the fare you are looking at one-way or a return? What is the price you found? Do you have a snap of the page or some more info? I highlighted the one that is most likely the fare you are seeing. The total price if I am correct would come to about £690 and it's definitely an economy fare, alas. The premium economy return fare in A class would be around £850.

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Fare Information Search:

Departing LIN on 11/03/16 for LAX
Returning on 22/03/16
Flying AZ AF 
Viewing in currency GBP
Validated Results

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type   Fare           Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                     Class                                      Date       Date        Stay     Purchase Req
NJXSRIT     AF       N        Round-Trip  296.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    05 / 12M 14
XJXSR8C4    AZ       X        Round-Trip  296.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    05 / 12M 14
NJWSRIT     AF       N        Round-Trip  319.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    05 / 12M 14
XJWSR8C4    AZ       X        Round-Trip  319.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    05 / 12M 14
SJXSR8C4    AZ       S        Round-Trip  327.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 07
TJXSRIT     AF       T        Round-Trip  327.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 07
SJWSR8C4    AZ       S        Round-Trip  351.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 07
TJWSRIT     AF       T        Round-Trip  351.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 07
NJXSR8C4    AZ       N        Round-Trip  359.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
QJXSRIT     AF       Q        Round-Trip  359.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 10
NJWSR8C4    AZ       N        Round-Trip  382.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
QJWSRIT     AF       Q        Round-Trip  382.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 10
LJXSRIT     AF       L        Round-Trip  390.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
TJXSR8C4    AZ       T        Round-Trip  390.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
LJWSRIT     AF       L        Round-Trip  413.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
TJWSR8C4    AZ       T        Round-Trip  413.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
HJXSFIT     AF       H        Round-Trip  452.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
VJXSF8C4    AZ       V        Round-Trip  452.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
HJWSFIT     AF       H        Round-Trip  476.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
VJWSF8C4    AZ       V        Round-Trip  476.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
KJXSF8C4    AZ       K        Round-Trip  515.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
KJXSFIT     AF       K        Round-Trip  515.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
KJWSF8C4    AZ       K        Round-Trip  538.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
KJWSFIT     AF       K        Round-Trip  538.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
AJLSIT      AF       A        Round-Trip  608.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 14
AJRT148C    AZ       A        Round-Trip  608.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 14
AJ1LS8C     AZ       A        Round-Trip  687.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 07
AJ1LSIT     AF       A        Round-Trip  687.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 07
AJRT8C      AZ       A        Round-Trip  843.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
AJSFIT      AF       A        Round-Trip  843.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
HJSF8C4     AZ       H        Round-Trip  874.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
UJSFIT      AF       U        Round-Trip  874.00 (GBP)   E      07/01/16   22/03/16    SU / 12M 
ALRT8C      AZ       A        Round-Trip  921.00 (GBP)   E      30/12/15   03/04/16    SU / 12M 
ALSFIT      AF       A        Round-Trip  921.00 (GBP)   E      30/12/15   03/04/16    SU / 12M 
MEE8C       AZ       M        Round-Trip  1479.00 (GBP)  E                             -- / 12M 
MFFIT       AF       M        Round-Trip  1479.00 (GBP)  E                                      
PRT8C1      AZ       P        Round-Trip  1649.00 (GBP)  PE                            SU / 12M 
SSFIT       AF       S        Round-Trip  1649.00 (GBP)  E                             SU / 12M 
PRT8C       AZ       P        Round-Trip  1805.00 (GBP)  PE                            -- / 12M 
SFFIT       AF       S        Round-Trip  1805.00 (GBP)  PE                                     
BEE8C       AZ       B        Round-Trip  1867.00 (GBP)  E                             -- / 12M 
BFFIT       AF       B        Round-Trip  1867.00 (GBP)  E                                      
POW8C       AZ       P        Round-Trip  2224.00 (GBP)  PE                                     
YFFIT       AF       Y        Round-Trip  2747.00 (GBP)  E                                      
YRT8C       AZ       Y        Round-Trip  2747.00 (GBP)  E                             -- / 12M 
YFF         AF       Y        Round-Trip  2749.00 (GBP)  E                                      
D1SF8C4     AZ       D        Round-Trip  2979.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 07
I1SFIT      AF       I        Round-Trip  2979.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 07
WFFIT       AF       W        Round-Trip  3121.00 (GBP)  PE                                     
WFF         AF       W        Round-Trip  3123.00 (GBP)  PE                                     
D2RT8C4     AZ       D        Round-Trip  3315.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 02
D3RT8C4     AZ       D        Round-Trip  3315.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 02
I2FFIT      AF       I        Round-Trip  3315.00 (GBP)  B                                      02
I3FFIT      AF       I        Round-Trip  3315.00 (GBP)  B                                      02
YOW8C       AZ       Y        Round-Trip  3510.00 (GBP)  E                                      
D4FFIT      AF       D        Round-Trip  3930.00 (GBP)  B                                      
ERT8C4      AZ       E        Round-Trip  3930.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
CFFIT       AF       C        Round-Trip  4983.00 (GBP)  B                                      
JRT         AZ       J        Round-Trip  4983.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
CFF         AF       C        Round-Trip  4985.00 (GBP)  B                                      
JOW         AZ       J        Round-Trip  6516.00 (GBP)  B                                      
FFFIT       AF       F        Round-Trip  6600.00 (GBP)  F                                      
JFFIT       AF       J        Round-Trip  7745.00 (GBP)  B                                      
JFFEU       AF       J        Round-Trip  7746.00 (GBP)  B                                      
JFFEU       AZ       J        Round-Trip  7746.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
JFF         AF       J        Round-Trip  7747.00 (GBP)  B                                      
FFFEU       AF       F        Round-Trip  8123.00 (GBP)  F                             -- / 12M 
JFFEU       AZ       J        Round-Trip  10378.00 (GBP) B                             -- / 12M 
PFF         AF       P        Round-Trip  10466.00 (GBP) F                                      
PFFEU       AF       P        Round-Trip  10466.00 (GBP) F                             -- / 12M 
PFFIT       AF       P        Round-Trip  10511.00 (GBP) F
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 3:39 pm
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Just one way on the 11th. Sorry I'm on my phone and can't do a screenshot. But here's the idea:
ANDATA: 11 MAR 2016 07:40
MILANO
(LIN)
09:10
PARIGI
(CDG)
Economy
Numero Volo: AZ7844 | Operato Da: Air France
01H:40 ore di sosta
11 MAR 2016 10:50
PARIGI
(CDG)
13:25
LOS ANGELES
(LAX)
Economy
Numero Volo: AZ3542 | Operato Da: Air France
1 Tariffa Adulti: 1 424,00 € Tasse: 82,44 € Supplementi : 89,00 € Totale: 1 595,44 €
REGOLE TARIFFARIE
REGOLE TARIFFARIE PER IL VOLO DI ANDATA
TARIFFA Premium Economy
EUR 1 595,44
BAGAGLIO A MANO 1X8KG V
MIGLIA V
SCELTA DEL POSTO V
BAGAGLIO IN STIVA 2 x 23Kg
RIMBORSO DEL BIGLIETTO DOPO LA PARTENZA V
RIMBORSO DEL BIGLIETTO PRIMA DELLA PARTENZA V
CAMBIO DELLA PRENOTAZIONE PRIMA DELLA PARTENZA V
CAMBIO DELLA PRENOTAZIONE DOPO LA PARTENZA V
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Old Feb 16, 2016, 1:41 am
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Interesting, I just checked one-way fares (full list below) and indeed the cheapest is premium economy P class on AZ (the full fare premium economy in fact) with no AF equivalent fare filed. It should book you into Premium economy on AF flight.

As an aside, you can get it much cheaper if you book a return, Premium-economy out and economy return, all together costing €875, saving you €700 and giving you the option of return at some point - or you can just forget about the return portion and never use it. I attach the ITA matrix below:

Code:
	
Milan (LIN) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Fri, Mar 11
	
Milan (LIN) to Paris (CDG) — Fri, Mar 11
Alitalia 7844
Dep: 7:40 am
Arr: 9:10 am
1h 30m
Airbus A318
Economy (Y)
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
Layover in CDG
1h 40m
	
Paris (CDG) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Fri, Mar 11
Alitalia 3542
Dep: 10:50 am
Arr: 1:25 pm
11h 35m
Airbus A380
Premium economy (A)
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
Los Angeles (LAX) to Milan (LIN) — Wed, Jul 13
Long layoverThis itinerary has arrival and departure at different airportsOvernight flight
	
Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris (CDG) — Wed, Jul 13
Delta 8549
Dep: 6:35 pm
Arr: 2:15 pm
10h 40m
Boeing 777
Economy (T)
Dinner
OPERATED BY AIR FRANCE
Layover in CDG
Thu, Jul 14
5h 20m
This flight contains airport changes
	
Paris (ORY) to Milan (LIN) — Thu, Jul 14
Alitalia 353
Dep: 7:35 pm
Arr: 9:00 pm
1h 25m
Embraer RJ-175
Economy (X)
OPERATED BY ALITALIA CITYLINER S.P.A.
Mileage
12,100 total miles
Airport Information
Milan Linate (LIN)
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Paris Charles de Gaulle (CDG)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
€875.71
Total cost for 1 passenger
€875.71
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
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Departing LIN on 11/03/16 for LAX
Flying AZ AF 
Viewing in currency EUR
Validated Results

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type   Fare           Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                     Class                                      Date       Date        Stay     Purchase Req
POW8C       AZ       P        One-Way     1424.00 (EUR)  PE                            -- / 12M 
YFFWIT      AF       Y        One-Way     2247.00 (EUR)  E                                      
YOW8C       AZ       Y        One-Way     2247.00 (EUR)  E                             -- / 12M 
YFFW        AF       Y        One-Way     2249.00 (EUR)  E                                      
WFFWIT      AF       W        One-Way     2521.00 (EUR)  PE                                     
WFFW        AF       W        One-Way     2523.00 (EUR)  PE                                     
CFFWIT      AF       C        One-Way     4171.00 (EUR)  B                                      
JOW         AZ       J        One-Way     4171.00 (EUR)  B                             -- / 12M 
CFFW        AF       C        One-Way     4173.00 (EUR)  B                                      
FFFWIT      AF       F        One-Way     6338.00 (EUR)  F                                      
JFFWIT      AF       J        One-Way     7132.00 (EUR)  B                                      
JFFW        AF       J        One-Way     7134.00 (EUR)  B                                      
FSFWIT      AF       F        One-Way     7469.00 (EUR)  F                             03 / --  
FFFWEU      AF       F        One-Way     7800.00 (EUR)  F                             -- / 12M 
PFFW        AF       P        One-Way     10050.00 (EUR) F                                      
PFFWEU      AF       P        One-Way     10050.00 (EUR) F                             -- / 12M 
PFFWIT      AF       P        One-Way     10052.00 (EUR) F
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Old Feb 17, 2016, 2:04 pm
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Awesome! You are the best. I actually need to go back towards the end of the month so that will work perfect!

[QUOTE=nufnuf77;26192086]Interesting, I just checked one-way fares (full list below) and indeed the cheapest is premium economy P class on AZ (the full fare premium economy in fact) with no AF equivalent fare filed. It should book you into Premium economy on AF flight.

As an aside, you can get it much cheaper if you book a return, Premium-economy out and economy return, all together costing €875, saving you €700 and giving you the option of return at some point - or you can just forget about the return portion and never use it. I attach the ITA matrix below:
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