Delta & Alaska Partnership Ended on May 1, 2017
Dec 19, 2016, 9:24 am
#31
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,838
I am in a similar boat here... I fly a lot of DL P fares and found crediting them to AS to be very valuable. Now I am unsure if I should double down on DL or start flying AA more domestically. I don't find domestic F in AA to be anywhere near the same level that DL F is.
Dec 19, 2016, 9:31 am
#32
Moderator, Delta Skymiles and Mileage Run
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Seat 2A
Programs: DL Diamond/MM, Hyatt Diamond, former AS MVPG 75K, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,940
The challenge I have is that DL P fares really are price competitive. Often times AS fares in F are 300-400 more and you aren't getting anywhere near a similar product, so it was an easy decision to fly DL and credit to AS.
Dec 19, 2016, 9:41 am
#33
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MIA
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 493
Glad that KLM/AF looks like it will continue, although looks like KLM is swapping their 747 back into SFO-AMS so there goes lieflat business, the 787 was nice.
Dec 19, 2016, 9:57 am
#35
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MSP
Programs: MP MVP Gold; Hilton - Gold; Marriott - Silver;
Posts: 213
As it stands I will put all my AA mileage into AS until my status is up to maximize my earning potential for those flights. My DL flights will credit back to DL once again. This forces me to choose really between AA and DL as my travel program of choice. AA for me offers a lot of options and refundable fares connecting through ORD/DFW whereas DL gives me a lot of directs out of MSP to the west coast with options to connect through various hubs to get out east.
I will have a few West Coast flights a year where AS/VX may be an option but purely on price and frequency they will probably lose out on my business unless they really ramp up coverage in the Midwest. Again, I can't be the only person whose flying habits are like this and AS is essentially losing out on free revenue from me flying other airlines. At the end of the day it is what it is and what that means is I will probably have to look at other options after April 30th 2017.
Dec 19, 2016, 10:05 am
#36
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 38
It was good while it lasted. One could fly AA or DL (just not UA) and get miles. Later, that benefit was not as when DL gave fewer miles and based it on fares.
In the long run, AS might be acquired by HP/AA, which is not good.
Maybe CO and AS could make up?
In the long run, AS might be acquired by HP/AA, which is not good.
Maybe CO and AS could make up?
Dec 19, 2016, 10:09 am
#37
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,838
I want some of what you're drinking...
Dec 19, 2016, 10:14 am
#38
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SEA, NW/DL 1.6Million Miler
Programs: DL 1MM Annual Silver,AS 100K 22-24, AS 75K 15-21
Posts: 4,278
Loss of award partner is painful
Losing award partner DL would make searching for award space even more difficult. Impossible to select discontinued award destinations, other destinations might be possible with some luck and advance planning. Overall, anticipate more futile searches...
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Dec 19, 2016, 10:15 am
#39
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MSP
Programs: MP MVP Gold; Hilton - Gold; Marriott - Silver;
Posts: 213
consistent upgrade routes for me when flying on my DL FF# (gold med status) are basically any routes between MSP/DTW and smaller midwest cities, SMF-LAX/SEA/SLC, most things out of OAK, a few things out of RDU and CLT.
with the reduced earnings i am mostly only crediting DL J and F tickets to my AS account now.
with the reduced earnings i am mostly only crediting DL J and F tickets to my AS account now.
Dec 19, 2016, 10:18 am
#40
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 998
+1 on this... the DL P fares are generally $100-250 cheaper than AA. We can only hope that AA continues to copy DL and starts selling more F.
Glad that KLM/AF looks like it will continue, although looks like KLM is swapping their 747 back into SFO-AMS so there goes lieflat business, the 787 was nice.
Glad that KLM/AF looks like it will continue, although looks like KLM is swapping their 747 back into SFO-AMS so there goes lieflat business, the 787 was nice.
) and I really enjoy the priority baggage claim benefit. I'm not certain AS works to get F pax bags onto the belt first or not, but I certainly don't remember them promoting that. Both times my bags were within the first five on the belt which allowed me to wait a grand total of maybe 3 minutes at claim before I head to pick up a car.AS's F product is not good. Customer service is great, on time status is pretty dang good, but F just is hugely overpriced and really lacking.
Delta has STUPIDLY short connections (why so many that are less then an hour?!), seems to have a lot of issues flying into Seattle because of weather, and might be a little hit or miss on customer service.
I loved playing both of them and banking miles with AS (since I don't get anywhere near the spend requirements to really make Delta work for me) but that's over now.... this is seriously going to be hard for me, I enjoy flying F for leisure a couple times a year but man I hate paying crazy high prices for it.
Will we be able to book a single travel reservation mixing AS and VA legs? Possibly flying PSC-SEA on AS and then SEA-LAX with Virgin America's F product will be an option for me. I just want to be able to book once and have all baggage handled for me from start to finish and the most protection if something is delayed or cancelled.
Dec 19, 2016, 10:30 am
#41
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
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Dec 19, 2016, 10:33 am
#42
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MSP
Programs: MP MVP Gold; Hilton - Gold; Marriott - Silver;
Posts: 213
Dec 19, 2016, 10:52 am
#43
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
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Posts: 20,391
Dec 19, 2016, 11:00 am
#44
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NY, NY
Posts: 695
O/T, but for my own selfish reasons I would like to see AS include Iberia into their list of partnerships (which given the presence of the AA/BA JV should not be too hard, no?). And maybe make an EK reduced-mileage exemption for the JFK-MXP flights
Dec 19, 2016, 11:10 am
#45
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,895
I travel mostly for work. Spend is not an issue in either case. With AS it gave me some leeway as to flight options between AA and DL. Based on my flying the past year, ie not trying to get everything into a single program bucket, i would have Silver/Base on both AA and DL, not including my *A flights I take as well. All I really care about is being able to redeem my miles to take my family on trips. AS gave me a way of not having to think to hard as to how to book/bank my trips and accrued mileage.
As it stands I will put all my AA mileage into AS until my status is up to maximize my earning potential for those flights. My DL flights will credit back to DL once again. This forces me to choose really between AA and DL as my travel program of choice. AA for me offers a lot of options and refundable fares connecting through ORD/DFW whereas DL gives me a lot of directs out of MSP to the west coast with options to connect through various hubs to get out east.
I will have a few West Coast flights a year where AS/VX may be an option but purely on price and frequency they will probably lose out on my business unless they really ramp up coverage in the Midwest. Again, I can't be the only person whose flying habits are like this and AS is essentially losing out on free revenue from me flying other airlines. At the end of the day it is what it is and what that means is I will probably have to look at other options after April 30th 2017.
As it stands I will put all my AA mileage into AS until my status is up to maximize my earning potential for those flights. My DL flights will credit back to DL once again. This forces me to choose really between AA and DL as my travel program of choice. AA for me offers a lot of options and refundable fares connecting through ORD/DFW whereas DL gives me a lot of directs out of MSP to the west coast with options to connect through various hubs to get out east.
I will have a few West Coast flights a year where AS/VX may be an option but purely on price and frequency they will probably lose out on my business unless they really ramp up coverage in the Midwest. Again, I can't be the only person whose flying habits are like this and AS is essentially losing out on free revenue from me flying other airlines. At the end of the day it is what it is and what that means is I will probably have to look at other options after April 30th 2017.