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Old Aug 27, 2015, 9:23 pm
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737-800 F Seats Terrible

Just completed a trip SMF-OGG-SMF in F class on an AS 737-800. The seat was horrible. Only 36" of legroom vs. 42" on HA. Even AA's 737-800's have 40". I'm unable to find any other major carrier with a pitch as small as AS has. The seat backs are so thick (maybe 5") that as soon as you try to put your seat back you're in the lap of the person behind you. Seat itself was quite uncomfortable. This made for very uncomfortable long flights. I hope F seat replacements are in the works before we fly them again.
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Old Aug 27, 2015, 9:44 pm
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If you want a better F product to the islands and don't care about miles, fly HA.

Personally I have yet to find any meaningful differences in the domestic F hard product on 737's between any of the major U.S. Carriers. It is what it is.
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Old Aug 27, 2015, 10:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Chugach
If you want a better F product to the islands and don't care about miles, fly HA.

Personally I have yet to find any meaningful differences in the domestic F hard product on 737's between any of the major U.S. Carriers. It is what it is.
To us, there sure was a BIG difference between the F seats on AA and those on AS. Just the seat pitch alone is significant.
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Old Aug 27, 2015, 10:03 pm
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Even HA inter-island 717 flights in F are better than Alaska 737 - F. I LOVE it when I get a 737-700 or 737-400 with the "old" new F seats from the 737-800s

Delta 737-800s even have more space.

AA - more legroom, but I also love the fact the tray table swivels... I wish more F cabins had that!
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Old Aug 27, 2015, 10:06 pm
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Originally Posted by JIMCHI
as soon as you try to put your seat back you're in the lap of the person behind you
That's why I don't recline my seat, but that choice is a big YMMV.

The AS F seats are fine for what they are. The trade-off for improving them would be 12 seats instead of 16. Very few would be in favor of that.

AA and DL offer premium F seats on some of their Hawaii flights. VX will join them in November.
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Old Aug 27, 2015, 10:28 pm
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Originally Posted by JIMCHI
Just completed a trip SMF-OGG-SMF in F class on an AS 737-800. The seat was horrible. Only 36" of legroom vs. 42" on HA. Even AA's 737-800's have 40". I'm unable to find any other major carrier with a pitch as small as AS has.
AA is taking delivery of A319s and A321s and installing F with 38" pitch, so enjoy the 738s while you can. They don't represent the long-term future of AA.

As for 36" on AS, it's not generous, depending on thickness of seat back.
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Old Aug 27, 2015, 11:11 pm
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I have to agree that the legroom is less than ideal. A bigger issue for me is that the seat is just plain uncomfortable.

I would love to have the swivel tray table as well. Based on how long the last design of seat was in use I think we are going to have to live with these for quite a while.
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Old Aug 28, 2015, 12:19 am
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Originally Posted by ken98230
I have to agree that the legroom is less than ideal. A bigger issue for me is that the seat is just plain uncomfortable.
Feel free to swap with anyone in row 6 or exit row who has better pitch than you.
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Old Aug 28, 2015, 12:33 am
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
the 738s [...] don't represent the long-term future of AA.
Actually, they do. AA will operate over 300 738s, more than any other plane type (and the second largest 738 fleet in the world), and the 738 will continue to be the majority of its narrow body fleet.
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Old Aug 28, 2015, 7:02 am
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I can say the AS seats are better than the US A321 F seats. DL Domestic 767 is pretty bad as well
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Old Aug 28, 2015, 8:29 am
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
Feel free to swap with anyone in row 6 or exit row who has better pitch than you.
I will either be in 6A or 6F, happy to swap with you any time!!
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Old Aug 28, 2015, 10:36 am
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Disagree in the sense that I find the 738 F seats to be comfortable...much better than the slimmer seats they replaced.

But, the pitch in F was also reduced, which is unfortunate. I really wish AS would remove one row of Y seating to expand F legroom and add a quasi "economy comfort" section to compete with Delta. Obviously they would only do this if they felt they could generate enough extra revenue to offset the loss of 6 seats.
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Old Aug 28, 2015, 10:57 am
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hmm. me, i'm just exceptionally happy to be able to fly non-stop between SMF and OGG, and be able to do it in F for $500rt with advanced purchase K fares + GGUs. YMMV it seems.
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Old Aug 28, 2015, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by sltlyamusd
Disagree in the sense that I find the 738 F seats to be comfortable...much better than the slimmer seats they replaced.

But, the pitch in F was also reduced, which is unfortunate. I really wish AS would remove one row of Y seating to expand F legroom and add a quasi "economy comfort" section to compete with Delta. Obviously they would only do this if they felt they could generate enough extra revenue to offset the loss of 6 seats.
My guess is what would happen is they would crunch Y to 30" to do "economy comfort".

I much prefer a 32" pitch anywhere in Y...
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Old Aug 28, 2015, 12:47 pm
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me, i'm just exceptionally happy to be able to fly non-stop between SMF and OGG, and be able to do it in F for $500rt with advanced purchase K fares + GGUs.
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