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Cathay award guide using Alaska Airlines miles
Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com:
Routing Rules:
North American Gateway Cities:
Western
Vancouver
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Eastern
Boston
Chicago
New York (JFK & EWR)
Toronto
Award Chart Links*:
Asia
Australia
Europe
India/Middle East
North America
Anyone with 90 posts and 90 days can edit the wiki. Everyone else if you want something added to the wiki please comment in the thread.
Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com:
Request your Partner Award reservation on Cathay Pacific by calling Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily.
- If its not on the award chart its not allowed.
- No stopover on intra-regional awards, example Asia to Asia.
- The only awards that do not break at HKG are intra-Asia or North American ones. For instance, Australia-Europe/Middle East/Asia outside of HKG will be two awards (breaking at HKG). The AS website can be misleading about this.
- Otherwise open jaw or stopover allowed on each round trip award.
- One stop-over allowed on one way award. Build open jaw and other advance routing by booking multiple one way awards. Please note change fee rule below
- Allegedly stop-over only in Hong Kong, but some have posted success in other enroute cities such as YVR.
- No fees for changes/cancellations prior to 60 days from departure.
- Awards can be booked 330 days in advance
North American Gateway Cities:
Western
Vancouver
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Eastern
Boston
Chicago
New York (JFK & EWR)
Toronto
Award Chart Links*:
Asia
Australia
Europe
India/Middle East
North America
Anyone with 90 posts and 90 days can edit the wiki. Everyone else if you want something added to the wiki please comment in the thread.
Redeeming Cathay Pacific ticket using Alaska miles
#376
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: YBA / YYC
Programs: AS; Aeroplan; Hilton (Diamond); Marriott (Platinum);
Posts: 346
I have 4 J tix booked for late Dec. from LAX-HKG-BKK. These were booked around the 330 day window. I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on whether or not any availability will open up between now and the 14-day(ish) pre-departure window? I check daily on BA which I'm thinking is somewhat obsessive...Not looking for a crystal ball, rather just your own experience with this.
#377
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: BOI
Posts: 223
It is unlikely that 4 F seats will open up. The cabin only has 6 seats. I checked obsessively as well for much of the past several months. Two seats became available 5 days prior to departure.
#378
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HKG/ SIN
Posts: 203
Has anyone tried to book a intra-Asia award recently? The new charts show that now intra-Asia business is more expensive than Europe/ Australia to Asia and the same price as North-America-Asia which makes zero sense to me. I hope this was a typo.
Last edited by GwailoSIN; May 5, 2016 at 11:45 pm
#379
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SHA, SIN, AMS
Programs: BA, SQ, EK, FB, SPG
Posts: 452
It's a mistake on their new tool. Their prices are indeed 22.5, 27.5k for J and F intra-Asia respectively.
#380
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 272
Hi anyone,
I want to book one way first class for next Dec 2017, but i think now you only able to book up to 300 day? so if i book for March 2017 then by December 2016 i will call to change the day to December 2017 is that going to work? i know Alaska won't charge for any fee unless it less than 60 day depart? anyone experience about this? thank in advance!
I want to book one way first class for next Dec 2017, but i think now you only able to book up to 300 day? so if i book for March 2017 then by December 2016 i will call to change the day to December 2017 is that going to work? i know Alaska won't charge for any fee unless it less than 60 day depart? anyone experience about this? thank in advance!
#381
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...uation-cathay/
It's a mistake on their new tool. Their prices are indeed 22.5, 27.5k for J and F intra-Asia respectively.
It's a mistake on their new tool. Their prices are indeed 22.5, 27.5k for J and F intra-Asia respectively.
Hi anyone,
I want to book one way first class for next Dec 2017, but i think now you only able to book up to 300 day? so if i book for March 2017 then by December 2016 i will call to change the day to December 2017 is that going to work? i know Alaska won't charge for any fee unless it less than 60 day depart? anyone experience about this? thank in advance!
I want to book one way first class for next Dec 2017, but i think now you only able to book up to 300 day? so if i book for March 2017 then by December 2016 i will call to change the day to December 2017 is that going to work? i know Alaska won't charge for any fee unless it less than 60 day depart? anyone experience about this? thank in advance!
#382
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 272
I messaged gabe earlier but I guess Lucky had beat me to it
It's 330 days is as far in advance as you can book. I don't know why you are looking to buy now if you have no intent in flying the day you book, Its not like you can transfer the award space. Whatever day you want to switch to will need award space available so its no different just to wait for now. If AS announces a deval it will likely be 30 days in advance and new rates will apply for any changes after that. The only time its really advantageous is when you are trying to grab the overwater segment today and add additional segments later on as space opens up. For date of travel change its pretty useless strategy
It's 330 days is as far in advance as you can book. I don't know why you are looking to buy now if you have no intent in flying the day you book, Its not like you can transfer the award space. Whatever day you want to switch to will need award space available so its no different just to wait for now. If AS announces a deval it will likely be 30 days in advance and new rates will apply for any changes after that. The only time its really advantageous is when you are trying to grab the overwater segment today and add additional segments later on as space opens up. For date of travel change its pretty useless strategy
#383
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,391
AA will NEVER charge for date/routing changes as long as origin/destination remain the same. AS will charge you within 60 days unless you are MVPG+ (and technically, they are waiving the fee).
AS also reissues award tickets every time there's a change (I've done this many times refining partner award itineraries, and every time I get a new ticket that my old ticket is exchanged for). New ticket probably means new mileage figure. So I think your strategy isn't likely to work at all.
Last edited by eponymous_coward; May 6, 2016 at 1:49 pm
#384
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: SNA, VCE
Programs: AA Lifetime Platinum, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Gold, United
Posts: 129
Timing award booking for stopover?
I am planning to book CX from LAX to JNB in J next April, and would like to stopover in HKG for at least five days. When the flights are released 330 days ahead (next week) is it possible to book the LAX-HKG segment first and then add the HKG-JNB segment five days later when it becomes available and still keep it as one award redemption?
Alternately, is it possible to hold the LAX-HKG segment for five days until the HKG-JNB leg opens for booking?
Alternately, is it possible to hold the LAX-HKG segment for five days until the HKG-JNB leg opens for booking?
#385
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,391
I am planning to book CX from LAX to JNB in J next April, and would like to stopover in HKG for at least five days. When the flights are released 330 days ahead (next week) is it possible to book the LAX-HKG segment first and then add the HKG-JNB segment five days later when it becomes available and still keep it as one award redemption?
There is no reason why you can't book ALL the segments 330 days in advance and then change your routing to do a stopover of the length you want; there's no fee for changing an award 60 or more days in advance.
AS doesn't do award holds.
#387
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 28
RECENT EXPERIENCE:
Tried booking an intra-Asia Y award (SIN-PEK) on CX with AS miles for 12.5k miles. Called the CSR the first time and she insisted that she couldn't find any seat even though KVS, BA and QF shows availability on X.
Decided to HUCA, and the second CSR said the same thing, and even insisted that "they might have access to a different inventory from ours". I sensed bulls-, so I escalated it to a more competent manager.
The manager said the same thing, until I told her - "oh the flight is kind of at the bottom of the list on the QF screen". Then she found it, right at the bottom of her list, because she assumed that flights are always "arranged chronologically".
TL;DR: NOT ALL AVAILABILITY IS PHANTOM. Human error occurs very frequently, especially for cases like this. A little frustrated that CSRs don't put in a little more effort to help their customers, especially when some/most of us are paying / flying miles for this too....
Tried booking an intra-Asia Y award (SIN-PEK) on CX with AS miles for 12.5k miles. Called the CSR the first time and she insisted that she couldn't find any seat even though KVS, BA and QF shows availability on X.
Decided to HUCA, and the second CSR said the same thing, and even insisted that "they might have access to a different inventory from ours". I sensed bulls-, so I escalated it to a more competent manager.
The manager said the same thing, until I told her - "oh the flight is kind of at the bottom of the list on the QF screen". Then she found it, right at the bottom of her list, because she assumed that flights are always "arranged chronologically".
TL;DR: NOT ALL AVAILABILITY IS PHANTOM. Human error occurs very frequently, especially for cases like this. A little frustrated that CSRs don't put in a little more effort to help their customers, especially when some/most of us are paying / flying miles for this too....
#388
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
I am planning to book CX from LAX to JNB in J next April, and would like to stopover in HKG for at least five days. When the flights are released 330 days ahead (next week) is it possible to book the LAX-HKG segment first and then add the HKG-JNB segment five days later when it becomes available and still keep it as one award redemption?
Alternately, is it possible to hold the LAX-HKG segment for five days until the HKG-JNB leg opens for booking?
Alternately, is it possible to hold the LAX-HKG segment for five days until the HKG-JNB leg opens for booking?
#389
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Hyderabad
Posts: 4,843
Does anyone know if Asia - Asia includes India awards (would India - HK - Japan be one intra-Asia award on CX)?
Thank you.
#390
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SYD
Programs: UA Premier Gold (*G), IHG Platinum & Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 1,456
Spoke to two agents for a JFK-HKG-JNB routing on CX.
Both the BA and QF award search shows 1 seat in F for the JFK-HKG sector but the Alaska agent was only able to find J space on these flights (+/- 10 days showed no F).
Is this a case of phantom availability or do I need to HUCA until I get somebody who is able to find the seat?
Both the BA and QF award search shows 1 seat in F for the JFK-HKG sector but the Alaska agent was only able to find J space on these flights (+/- 10 days showed no F).
Is this a case of phantom availability or do I need to HUCA until I get somebody who is able to find the seat?