AB new seating policy?
#46
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AZ
Programs: AA Million Miler, Bonvoy Lifetime Gold, Global Entry
Posts: 246
I will be travelling from DUS to LAX in August on an AA business class award ticket and have assumed the restrictions on seat assignment will not impact me. However I tried to get a seat assignment from the AB site and cannot find a means of doing so. Under Booking I can select Seat Reservation which takes me to a page that asks me for my last name and booking number. When I enter them I get my reservation details but no means to request a seat assignment.
Is this just because my flight is so far in the future or am I missing something/
thanks
Is this just because my flight is so far in the future or am I missing something/
thanks
#47
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Austria (Vbg)
Programs: LX SEN, BA Gfl/GGL, IC Dia, HH Dia, Hyatt LT GLOB
Posts: 1,585
I will be travelling from DUS to LAX in August on an AA business class award ticket and have assumed the restrictions on seat assignment will not impact me. However I tried to get a seat assignment from the AB site and cannot find a means of doing so. Under Booking I can select Seat Reservation which takes me to a page that asks me for my last name and booking number. When I enter them I get my reservation details but no means to request a seat assignment.
Is this just because my flight is so far in the future or am I missing something/
thanks
Is this just because my flight is so far in the future or am I missing something/
thanks
#48
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AZ
Programs: AA Million Miler, Bonvoy Lifetime Gold, Global Entry
Posts: 246
I cannot select Additional Services, the text says "If you wish to book any additional services, please contact the airberlin Service Center »". I did not login since I do not have an AB account but rather entered my last name and booking number. Perhaps I need an AB account so I can actually login.
#49
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AZ
Programs: AA Million Miler, Bonvoy Lifetime Gold, Global Entry
Posts: 246
Even after registering for an AB account and logging in I still cannot select the Additional Services for my flight. Since it is over 8 months until my flight perhaps there is a limit on the time before the flight you can request seat assignments and order meals.
#50
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Switzerland/West Coast
Programs: BAEC Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 215
Update: My seat reservation by phone through the BA call centre did not stick either. However, I did the online check-in at the AB web site as soon as they opened (30 hours before the flight) and got a seat at the bulkhead at no extra cost that way.
Now to see whether they'll be serving free meals. Tried reserving a meal through the Qatar web site as suggested earlier in this thread, but it didn't stick.
Now to see whether they'll be serving free meals. Tried reserving a meal through the Qatar web site as suggested earlier in this thread, but it didn't stick.
#51
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: ZRH / SIN
Programs: FB Ulti, QR-Gold (OWS), TK *Gold, Bonvoy Ambassadort Elite, GHA Titanium, Accor Platinum
Posts: 531
I also made the experience that the AB website can be quite difficult to book additional services when the flight was not booked directly with AB. As you still have a lot of time, I suggest emailing the service-center with your desired seat and they should be able to respond within a reasonable time (which can anyway take some days/weeks given their mediocre service level). Especially window-seats offer a lot of privacy and are not that plenty.
#52
Join Date: Oct 2010
Programs: AA ex-EXP (buh-bye!), HH Gold, SPG Gold, UM Go Blue
Posts: 543
Update: My seat reservation by phone through the BA call centre did not stick either. However, I did the online check-in at the AB web site as soon as they opened (30 hours before the flight) and got a seat at the bulkhead at no extra cost that way.
Now to see whether they'll be serving free meals. Tried reserving a meal through the Qatar web site as suggested earlier in this thread, but it didn't stick.
Now to see whether they'll be serving free meals. Tried reserving a meal through the Qatar web site as suggested earlier in this thread, but it didn't stick.
They are not "free" meals, they are vegetarian replacements for the regular meals offered on longhaul routes.
#53
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: PDX|AKL|AMS|GVA|AGP|CPT - or somewhere in between
Programs: DL DM; 2MM
Posts: 2,418
My family and I will be on an AB flight TXL to ORD tomorrow, but I'm only able to select seats for the amount of €54 or €84 for XL seats p/p respectively
Obviously, the selected seats through the QR website a while back are gone.
Perhaps we should consider ourselves lucky so far that we don't have to pay for checked baggage, drinks and a meal yet ?
Update:
Of course, web check-in to the USA not available.
Although we were late, all went fine at airport check-in and we all got XL seats assigned.
Departure delayed by an hour, without any announcement.
Front cabin seemed nearly empty.
Did not notice this on my prior AB flights - or any flights ever for that matter - but the coffee served on this flight was "delicious" Nescafé - instant coffee.
Yikes !
Obviously, the selected seats through the QR website a while back are gone.
Perhaps we should consider ourselves lucky so far that we don't have to pay for checked baggage, drinks and a meal yet ?
Update:
Of course, web check-in to the USA not available.
Although we were late, all went fine at airport check-in and we all got XL seats assigned.
Departure delayed by an hour, without any announcement.
Front cabin seemed nearly empty.
Did not notice this on my prior AB flights - or any flights ever for that matter - but the coffee served on this flight was "delicious" Nescafé - instant coffee.
Yikes !
Last edited by Travelomania; Jan 9, 2016 at 2:02 pm Reason: update
#54
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Austria (Vbg)
Programs: LX SEN, BA Gfl/GGL, IC Dia, HH Dia, Hyatt LT GLOB
Posts: 1,585
As BA Emerald (FlyClassic ticket) was only able to pre-select seats behind the exit rows, but yesterday using the app checkin rows 1-4 were available, rows 5-13 blocked (seems like it), and rows 14 onwards also available. Flying this evening HEL-TXL and me and my partner seem to be the only ones so far in the rows 1-4.
Some Interesting observations:
- Had a separate booking for two family members on the same flight (OW Sapphire status holder and a status-less member). For them only rows 14 onwards showed available. So it either seems that OW Sapphire members are not granted the same seat selection as OW Emeralds at check-in or that the status-less passengers prohibits the status-member from this ("technically spoken" ). So curious to know if harri's partner had status? Because if not this means that AB clearly distinguishes between the various status levels and Emeralds can pass on their benefits to other passsengers in the same booking whereas Sapphire passengers can not.
- Fast Track at Security is not granted for Sapphire Status Members (which is in line with OW regulation, so just as an information)
- Pre-Boarding is also only granted to the status member and not available to other passengers in the same booking (in contrast to BA).
#55
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Wedged somewhere between BTS and VIE ✈
Programs: Star Alliance Gold (A3 Gold), Oneworld Emerald (BA Gold), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,338
Some Interesting observations:
- Had a separate booking for two family members on the same flight (OW Sapphire status holder and a status-less member). For them only rows 14 onwards showed available. So it either seems that OW Sapphire members are not granted the same seat selection as OW Emeralds at check-in or that the status-less passengers prohibits the status-member from this ("technically spoken" ). So curious to know if harri's partner had status? Because if not this means that AB clearly distinguishes between the various status levels and Emeralds can pass on their benefits to other passsengers in the same booking whereas Sapphire passengers can not.
- Fast Track at Security is not granted for Sapphire Status Members (which is in line with OW regulation, so just as an information)
- Pre-Boarding is also only granted to the status member and not available to other passengers in the same booking (in contrast to BA).
Up until December I always travelled with my partner and as oneworld Sapphire (BA Silver) me and my partner were always granted Fast Track security and pre-boarding.
#56
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Austria (Vbg)
Programs: LX SEN, BA Gfl/GGL, IC Dia, HH Dia, Hyatt LT GLOB
Posts: 1,585
Yeah, was surprised too. The route in question was ZRH-TXL. On the way back (TXL-ZRH), Fast Track security was granted but not pre-boarding according to the boarding pass. Furthermore, for this flight Web Check-In did let them choose seats in row 1-4 (in contrast to the first flight)!?
#57
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Switzerland/West Coast
Programs: BAEC Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 215
Having completed my Avios redemption ZRH-FNC as an Emerald, here are some observations:
- Fast track security was granted in both ZRH and FNC, even though neither airport shows up for this being available on the Oneworld website.
- Seat reservation was not available at booking. Tried through the Qatar site as suggested in this thread, and it didn't stick; then tried calling BA to make the reservation, and that didn't stick either.
- AB web check-in opens 30 hours before the flight (not 24 hours like with BA), and I was able to secure a seat at the bulkhead for free by checking in as soon as it opened, which offers considerably better legroom than most other seats. However, they seem to have a knack for putting families with babies there (sitting next to one both inbound and outbound), so proceed with caution.
- Meal reservation through Qatar didn't stick, though I was given a free hot meal on the outbound flight. Had to pay for my meal on the inbound flight though.
- There is no Oneworld accessible lounge in FNC. Was able to get into the TAP navigator lounge for 30€ though. Not great, but probably worth it.
All in all, it's a pretty sweet redemption value (20k Avios and 57$ for ZRH-FNC return), but not an airline I would consider flying on a paid ticket. There is definitely a distinct "budget airline" feel to the whole thing.
- Fast track security was granted in both ZRH and FNC, even though neither airport shows up for this being available on the Oneworld website.
- Seat reservation was not available at booking. Tried through the Qatar site as suggested in this thread, and it didn't stick; then tried calling BA to make the reservation, and that didn't stick either.
- AB web check-in opens 30 hours before the flight (not 24 hours like with BA), and I was able to secure a seat at the bulkhead for free by checking in as soon as it opened, which offers considerably better legroom than most other seats. However, they seem to have a knack for putting families with babies there (sitting next to one both inbound and outbound), so proceed with caution.
- Meal reservation through Qatar didn't stick, though I was given a free hot meal on the outbound flight. Had to pay for my meal on the inbound flight though.
- There is no Oneworld accessible lounge in FNC. Was able to get into the TAP navigator lounge for 30€ though. Not great, but probably worth it.
All in all, it's a pretty sweet redemption value (20k Avios and 57$ for ZRH-FNC return), but not an airline I would consider flying on a paid ticket. There is definitely a distinct "budget airline" feel to the whole thing.
#58
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 5,919
I am a but confused,
I have a KRK to TXL coming up at the end of the week
I am OneWorld Sapphire through my BAEC Silver status
The AB website says AB status holders at Gold and Platinum (OW Sapphire and Emerald I think) get seats for free
When I select seats I am being told I need to pay XXPLN depending on the seat I choose
Should I be able to select seats for free or not?
I have a KRK to TXL coming up at the end of the week
I am OneWorld Sapphire through my BAEC Silver status
The AB website says AB status holders at Gold and Platinum (OW Sapphire and Emerald I think) get seats for free
When I select seats I am being told I need to pay XXPLN depending on the seat I choose
Should I be able to select seats for free or not?
Last edited by scottishpoet; Jan 18, 2016 at 7:43 am
#60
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: DFW; Allen, TX
Programs: AA EXP/2MM, SPG Lifetime Platinum, Marriott PLT, National Exec Elite
Posts: 1,083
So my question is this... if we do pay for the seat upgrade, does that change the booking class? Would I then be able to earn more than the 25% American Airlines EQMs for booking the lowcost option?