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Old Apr 11, 11, 8:45 pm   #1
 
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AF7 A380 clips a DL CRJ700 at JFK

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/04/11/new...lane.incident/
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/04/...t-jfk-airport/
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ork&id=8066927
I think I stopped counting the number of collisions AF A380s get into...
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Old Apr 11, 11, 10:01 pm   #2
 
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Urgh another collision!

It seems the affected flight AF011 has been delayed until 01:00am JFK time according to airfrance.com, but if part of the wing has fallen off, I wonder if they are being too optimistic.

What puzzles me, is the AF009 flight after this has also been cancelled. I wonder why?!
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Old Apr 11, 11, 10:04 pm   #3
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...What puzzles me, is the AF009 flight after this has also been cancelled. I wonder why?!
Most likely the plane to be used for AF9 will now fly as AF11 and the A380 will be grounded for a day or longer.
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Most likely the plane to be used for AF9 will now fly as AF11 and the A380 will be grounded for a day or longer.
Got the registrations number is F-HPJD. Anyone who flew on this plane before?
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Youtube it, sobering viewing, and a perfect example of why you should keep your seatbelt fastened until the aircraft has come to a complete stop at the gate !
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Aircraft is grounded in JFK until April 15th. Choumacs are operating on it.
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This is pretty bad, and not your typical collision either. The A380 was taxing at high speed, and from what it looks like at fault - the CRJ seems to have been stationary..
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Youtube it, sobering viewing, and a perfect example of why you should keep your seatbelt fastened until the aircraft has come to a complete stop at the gate !
Indeed - and that CRJ looks to have gotten a pretty big bump.

Not sure if I should be happy or disappointed about the lack of jokes about French driving so far... Oh well, first scratch is always the worst, eh?
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PAX in the Comair aicraft must have been pretty smashed :/
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This is pretty bad, and not your typical collision either. The A380 was taxing at high speed, and from what it looks like at fault - the CRJ seems to have been stationary..
In a situation like this, I don't think (but do not know) that it is as simple as the Capt of the stationary plane being blameless while the Capt of the moving plane is fully culpable. It is, for example, possible that the CRJ was stopped before an authorized holding place and thus left their tail out over a taxiway. I agree that responsibility also rests with AF to ensure that they have clear access but I guarantee judging exactly where those wings are in space is very difficult.

I am not a pilot.

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That JFK terminal is ridiculously cramped between piers and it is no surprise something like this ultimately happened. There is just not enough space between the two piers. I am surprised LH planes have not had similar clips given they are parked closest in and have the tightest turning distances.
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Got the registrations number is F-HPJD. Anyone who flew on this plane before?
If that's the bird, then yes, last September on CDG-NRT route.
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In a situation like this, I don't think (but do not know) that it is as simple as the Capt of the stationary plane being blameless while the Capt of the moving plane is fully culpable. It is, for example, possible that the CRJ was stopped before an authorized holding place and thus left their tail out over a taxiway. I agree that responsibility also rests with AF to ensure that they have clear access but I guarantee judging exactly where those wings are in space is very difficult.
Possible causes for such accidents :
- ATC mistake giving wrong route for an aircraft (too big to fit) ;
- pilot error not following the good route or badly following the line ;
- handling staff error for the parked plane (wrong spot).

But I'm pretty sure many other causes can lead to such a collision.
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How big is an A380?

Here's a link to a good comparison to show just how much wider the wingspan is on the A380.
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