Air Canada President: Business Class Customers Don’t Like Surprises
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Wpgjetse ... um ... you do realize that Vegas hosts more conferences and trade shows each year than any other city in the world, don't you? (more than 22,000 each year, according to these guys). Would you consider the hundreds of thousands of people who work those events to be leisure travelers?
And LAX? Are you serious?
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And LAX? Are you serious?
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Actually it was one pilot, on two occasions
'Cuz they say two thousand zero zero party over,
Oops out of time
So tonight I'm gonna party like it's RV1999
Oops out of time
So tonight I'm gonna party like it's RV1999
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AC still has a ways to go on this front. To not surprise me, I need:
- smooth check-in experience with low wait times (if I check in a bag)
- agents that monitor the SE check-in line
- proper priority boarding, with Zone 1 called on every aircraft with J (and Y aircraft with 70+ pax)
- if two jet bridges, SD that doesn't let about 100+ Y pax board through the one reserved for J
- SE meal orders taken first (not an official perk)
- efficient meal service (was just on a YYZ-LHR red-eye where by the time desert wrapped up we were 3.5 hours into the flight)
- Executive pod seats that don't deflate
- efficient baggage delivery with priority bags first
Rarely can I get through a flight experience with all of these conditions met.
- smooth check-in experience with low wait times (if I check in a bag)
- agents that monitor the SE check-in line
- proper priority boarding, with Zone 1 called on every aircraft with J (and Y aircraft with 70+ pax)
- if two jet bridges, SD that doesn't let about 100+ Y pax board through the one reserved for J
- SE meal orders taken first (not an official perk)
- efficient meal service (was just on a YYZ-LHR red-eye where by the time desert wrapped up we were 3.5 hours into the flight)
- Executive pod seats that don't deflate
- efficient baggage delivery with priority bags first
Rarely can I get through a flight experience with all of these conditions met.
I think they ought to offer a proper quick meal service, so you can eat and be out within an hour. I've had lousy food in LH First (ex-MUC) too so its not like First is no longer airplane food either.
As for the F vs. LF-J, I think the market has spoken. F is great, I really enjoy flying in F, but it ain't worth the cash required over J.
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What the heck is he talking about. I love surprises.
Please AC surprise me with
Please AC surprise me with
- An IT system that works, allow me to manage my flights online, without having to call in to your very busy agents
- A efficient consistant boarding process.
- Enforcement of carry-on allowances, both size and number. A 30 rollerboard does not fit in the overhead bin. Nor do 6 shopping bags
- A clean cabin/seats, with working components
- Clean lavs esp on long/overnight flights
- Professional polite gate crew
- A professional, friendly cabin crew. I don't need love notes. Polite and pleasant will do.
- A consistant quality, edible decent meal. Doesn't have to be haute cuisine. But I would like to enjoy what I am eating.
- Some variety in the menus. Dare I say pre-ordering of meals.
- Bread that does not bounce when the FA puts it on my plate or bread that doesn't double as a knee defender.
- Edible decent quality food in the MLL. Not expecting Beef Wellington but something I can make a meal out of.
- Extended food serving hours in the MLL. Fine take away hot food (assuming that I have been surprised with hot food in the MLL) but leave some snacks. Cheese, crackers, hummus and veggies, fruit, cookies.
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I'd like to be surprised and actually clear the eUp waitlist so I can fly in J.
To me this is the most interesting part of the article "Air Canada believes its business class seat is so good that the airline doesn’t need first class." - I agree in many ways with this; but this is ONE part of the J service. ....
To me this is the most interesting part of the article "Air Canada believes its business class seat is so good that the airline doesn’t need first class." - I agree in many ways with this; but this is ONE part of the J service. ....
They're bang on there!!
- agents that monitor the SE check-in line
- proper priority boarding, with Zone 1 called on every aircraft with J (and Y aircraft with 70+ pax)
- if two jet bridges, SD that doesn't let about 100+ Y pax board through the one reserved for J
- SE meal orders taken first (not an official perk)
- efficient meal service (was just on a YYZ-LHR red-eye where by the time desert wrapped up we were 3.5 hours into the flight)
- Executive pod seats that don't deflate
- efficient baggage delivery with priority bags first
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Yup, Orlando and Las Vegas are two of the (if not the two) largest convention/expo centres in USA. Almost all of my Orlando travel is business. Thank heavens most of the time I can eUp because the back of rouge is awful.
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Priority luggage delivery seems to have significantly improved of late.
At least at YYC, it seems they consistently arrive within minutes of our arrival in the luggage area, a good ten minutes before the remainder.
At least at YYC, it seems they consistently arrive within minutes of our arrival in the luggage area, a good ten minutes before the remainder.
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This is good to hear. Last weekend I flew back to YUL with my mother, she had a checked bag, and by the time we had walked to the baggage claim area her priority tagged bag was already on the belt. I hope that wasn't a one-of case. ^
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I will second that. Seated in J last night (just to point out that I didn't sit on the plane at the gate for 10 min). I walked to the luggage belt, and my luggage was delivered within 2 mins. A bit of a record. Just as nice, I checked it in BOS and didn't have to touch it in YYZ.
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I will second that. Seated in J last night (just to point out that I didn't sit on the plane at the gate for 10 min). I walked to the luggage belt, and my luggage was delivered within 2 mins. A bit of a record. Just as nice, I checked it in BOS and didn't have to touch it in YYZ.
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