mendy7511

The new ones are not lie flat either. At least not 180 degrees, maybe 175.

Silvercity

The only thing I don't like about the older Pod's is the stupid Blue light that won't go out. It shines bright in your eye

sweden05

Definitely true... not quite flat...

Stranger

If that's true it's not really noticeable.

canadiancow

What's your reference point? The floor? Or gravity?

Because the floor is not perpendicular to gravity. For sleeping, I care more about gravity than the floor.

mendy7511

Reference point is my head is quite elevated when in the flat position.
With the old pods it was was flat with the rest of my body.

Stranger

That does not answer the question. "Elevated" in what frame of reference? aligned with the floor, or with the true horizontal, i.e. normal to the gravity vector?

24left

OK, I'll add my "sample size of one" comment

It does not lie flat and I just did 29 hours on three AC 777s over a couple of days.

Also, when you put it in the flat position "rest", something sticks out where my lower back would be and it feels like some sort of arch. I do not inflate or touch any of the lumbar options. (And no snide comments from those of you tempted to offer ones)

So, I end up in an angled position, reclined as it were. Not terrible, but not completely restful.

But nothing is worse than trying to turn onto my side while sleeping and getting whacked in the leg by the table.

I'm happy this doesn't happen to some of you.

And for some reason, it is worse on the 777s and the distance within the pod is somewhat shorter. I'll try to remember to measure next week.

mendy7511

I believe that most people when they lie down can tell the difference if their head and feet on the same level or if their feet are angled down lower than their head.
I don't think I need to bring a level tool to check

Stranger

Perhaps a previous passenger (no snide comment) set the lumbar support in some position that does nt suit you and thee things don't reset automatically between flights?

24left

On ALL 3 flights on the recent trip?
On ALL 6 flights in the last 2 weeks?
On 6 different fins?
I don't think so.

binflying

It is true. It's tilted by about 2 or 3 degrees. The airplane does not fly perfectly level in the air, and so the seat is tilted ever so slightly so once in the sky, it is level relative to the Earth.

canadiancow

Which is what Stranger and I were alluding to

Stranger

Right. In other words, it's *NOT* true. It is slanted in relation to the floor, but it is horizontal. Which at the end of the day is what matters.

Genetk44

Lets go back to the late 1970s First Class seating!!!