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Old May 24, 2016, 10:49 am
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the fact that AC staff get to take business class seats and AC top tier super elites get stuck in the back...
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Old May 24, 2016, 11:06 am
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Gate agents make minimum wage? I'll take that beef for $100 Alex.
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Old May 24, 2016, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
On my phone so sorry for not quoting exactly the line item that I want to but gate agents should very well be serving a customer, just like I do for mine. If they are not, then they are not doing their job.

As you said it is what it is but if I ask if my upgrade cleared I should not be pushed aside during boarding and snarled at for bothering them.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be serving you. I'm saying you shouldn't treat them like a servant. There's no reason you can't be friendly with them.
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Old May 24, 2016, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I'm not saying they shouldn't be serving you. I'm saying you shouldn't treat them like a servant. There's no reason you can't be friendly with them.
I disagree with you but thats ok.

When I interact with GAs I need something urgently, much like you do in the situation that you presented.

I dont have time for small talk.

I hate how I have to apologize for bothering them. It should not be this way.
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Old May 24, 2016, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by montrealer
  • Lack of frontline empowerment. Minor exceptions which could, and at one point in the past were, done noncontroversially by staff for even moderately frequent flyers, now take a concierge if they can be done at all.
This. Especially for non-SE people. The concierge should not be needed for half the stuff I see described on FT.
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Old May 24, 2016, 11:45 am
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If I can only give one, it would be that they've somehow combined the profit squeezing outlook of a corporation with the customer service and entitlements of a government agency.

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Old May 24, 2016, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
As in, what is the #1 thing that pisses you off with Air Canada?
What the leadership believes they deliver, vs. what is actually delivered.
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Old May 24, 2016, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin

I dont have time for small talk.
This is possibly THE funniest thing you have ever posted on FT.
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Old May 24, 2016, 12:06 pm
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This is possibly THE funniest thing you have ever posted on FT.
Finally, someone got it.
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Old May 24, 2016, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
Finally, someone got it.
Sorry, but I see zero irony in your "small talk" statement and am convinced that you were being earnest.
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Old May 24, 2016, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
I hate how I have to apologize for bothering them. It should not be this way.
I don't think I've ever apologized for talking to an AC employee about something I need them to do.

I just don't seem to experience the issues you do.

I'd like to see the ground agent attitudes improved, but I don't think they're anywhere near as bad as you do.
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Old May 24, 2016, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I don't think I've ever apologized for talking to an AC employee about something I need them to do.

I just don't seem to experience the issues you do.

I'd like to see the ground agent attitudes improved, but I don't think they're anywhere near as bad as you do.
YMMV as they say.

When I fly on other airlines, inclusive of WS (even if I don't like the airline), I've found helpful gate agents. It's always been "Thanks for flying with us, have a great day". Vs, AC's....BP! Next.

My experience with AC GA's have been poor, that's all I'm saying. It's my main reason for having a beef with AC.

I recall once at SAN where they literally roped off Zone 1 after they were done with boarding Zone 1. Like, for real? Come on. I was late to the gate, but still entitled to board in Zone 1. I had to cut everyone else off (they were boarding Zone 3 at the time).

I recall making a comment to the gate agent and she snarkingly replied back that it's protocol.

I followed up with an AC R employee at the office in Toronto after that. (corporate gentleman who I met off of FT)
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Old May 24, 2016, 12:47 pm
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Gate agents.
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Old May 24, 2016, 12:53 pm
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I get the feeling that some AC gate agents will read this and laugh themselves silly about how DYKIA some here are.

I try to treat every front line employee with courtesy--in other words they way I would want to be treated in an ideal world.

Yes, it's old fashioned, but sometimes that's the best way.
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Old May 24, 2016, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I'm not saying they shouldn't be serving you. I'm saying you shouldn't treat them like a servant. There's no reason you can't be friendly with them.
Totally agreed and can entirely picture this happening.
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