[IN FLIGHT] Shaves on a Plane; the Hall of Shame for passengers behaving badly on AC
#61
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I'm waiting for some FT'er to post:
"I was on 882 to Copenhagen recently. There were these two guys going on endlessly about their frequent flying, how aeroplan sucks and how other carriers are better than AC. I tried to sarcastically suggest they get off the plane but they just stared at me. Friggin' SE's, it made me so mad I couldn't sleep and had to crush my water bottle to calm down for half the flight. I asked the SD who they thought they were and he muttered something about cows or bulls or something. Some people eh?"
Just to make the point that there are two sides to a story & who's to say that those we find obnoxious might think the same of us. Unless they are shaving in their seat of course which is just plane wrong. (My beard trimmer collects hairs supposedly as well but I still have to clean the sink before the Mrs complains.)
"I was on 882 to Copenhagen recently. There were these two guys going on endlessly about their frequent flying, how aeroplan sucks and how other carriers are better than AC. I tried to sarcastically suggest they get off the plane but they just stared at me. Friggin' SE's, it made me so mad I couldn't sleep and had to crush my water bottle to calm down for half the flight. I asked the SD who they thought they were and he muttered something about cows or bulls or something. Some people eh?"
Just to make the point that there are two sides to a story & who's to say that those we find obnoxious might think the same of us. Unless they are shaving in their seat of course which is just plane wrong. (My beard trimmer collects hairs supposedly as well but I still have to clean the sink before the Mrs complains.)
I was on 882 YYZ-CPH with another FTer on the 11th. We were in 1AD.
During boarding, we were talking about stuff. Like Aeroplan bookings, LH F, etc. But we were not talking about Air Canada. We were also not really complaining about anything, just discussing.
2A shouts "If you hate it so much, why don't you get off?"
He then proceeded to squish his water bottle for at least 4 hours of the flight, which makes a lot of noise.
He also asked the SD about the two of us.
I was considering accidentally dropping a drink on him.
He was SE/MM/VIP, because he was asked for his meal choice right after I was.
During boarding, we were talking about stuff. Like Aeroplan bookings, LH F, etc. But we were not talking about Air Canada. We were also not really complaining about anything, just discussing.
2A shouts "If you hate it so much, why don't you get off?"
He then proceeded to squish his water bottle for at least 4 hours of the flight, which makes a lot of noise.
He also asked the SD about the two of us.
I was considering accidentally dropping a drink on him.
He was SE/MM/VIP, because he was asked for his meal choice right after I was.
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I'm waiting for some FT'er to post:
"I was on 882 to Copenhagen recently. There were these two guys going on endlessly about their frequent flying, how aeroplan sucks and how other carriers are better than AC. I tried to sarcastically suggest they get off the plane but they just stared at me. Friggin' SE's, it made me so mad I couldn't sleep and had to crush my water bottle to calm down for half the flight. I asked the SD who they thought they were and he muttered something about cows or bulls or something. Some people eh?"
Just to make the point that there are two sides to a story & who's to say that those we find obnoxious might think the same of us. Unless they are shaving in their seat of course which is just plane wrong. (My beard trimmer collects hairs supposedly as well but I still have to clean the sink before the Mrs complains.)
"I was on 882 to Copenhagen recently. There were these two guys going on endlessly about their frequent flying, how aeroplan sucks and how other carriers are better than AC. I tried to sarcastically suggest they get off the plane but they just stared at me. Friggin' SE's, it made me so mad I couldn't sleep and had to crush my water bottle to calm down for half the flight. I asked the SD who they thought they were and he muttered something about cows or bulls or something. Some people eh?"
Just to make the point that there are two sides to a story & who's to say that those we find obnoxious might think the same of us. Unless they are shaving in their seat of course which is just plane wrong. (My beard trimmer collects hairs supposedly as well but I still have to clean the sink before the Mrs complains.)
Nowhere did we say anything bad about AC, or that anything else was better.
I like when others can jump into a conversation like that, but he was just being a douche.
And the crew didn't like him either
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Worst for me was flying (think it was 876) to FRA last January. Family of 3 (adult daughter, father and grandfather) all in 18, with my boss and I sharing the aisle seats (G/J). The adult daughter was seated in F and elbowed my boss throughout the flight and sneezed on his leg (didn't use a tissue either). I have a smattering of Cantonese, and what my boss was saying about her wasn't nice
Dad was in 18K, and while he didn't didn't act gross, he did treat the FA's like serfs and was laughing like a castrated donkey at whatever he was watching on his IFE.
Grandpa was the best and, joy oh joy, he was beside me. Took off his sandals, and started cleaning his right big toe just before dinner to whet my appetite. I said "Seriously?" and was ignored. Dinner obviously didn't agree with his GI system and he was making no attempt to hide his efforts to break wind. Everyone recognizes the "One Cheek Sneak"...I sure did, since he (as Monty Python said) "F@rted in my general direction". It's very possible he may have "followed through" on one or several of his attempts to pass gas, and he decided to check this by rummaging his left hand quite thoroughly in the crack of his pants (jostling me more than a wee bit), then placing said hand on the armrest we shared.
It gets better, trust me.
As we were all trying to get to sleep, Grandpa decided that he wasn't comfortable, and decided to stretch out, attempting to do so by lifting both his feet over our shared armrest and literally trying to put them in my lap.
That did it for me. I grabbed his feet and tossed them back on his side of the armrest and said "this is my personal space, stay on your bloody side" Dad on the window then tried to scold me about being mean to his father and that his dad wasn't comfortable about flying. I replied to him that his father's disgusting behaviour was making me uncomfortable.
All of the above happened with nary a check-in by any FA, BTW.
Upon arrival in my hotel in Nurnberg about 8 hours later, I literally wanted to burn my clothes and bathe in bleach.
Dad was in 18K, and while he didn't didn't act gross, he did treat the FA's like serfs and was laughing like a castrated donkey at whatever he was watching on his IFE.
Grandpa was the best and, joy oh joy, he was beside me. Took off his sandals, and started cleaning his right big toe just before dinner to whet my appetite. I said "Seriously?" and was ignored. Dinner obviously didn't agree with his GI system and he was making no attempt to hide his efforts to break wind. Everyone recognizes the "One Cheek Sneak"...I sure did, since he (as Monty Python said) "F@rted in my general direction". It's very possible he may have "followed through" on one or several of his attempts to pass gas, and he decided to check this by rummaging his left hand quite thoroughly in the crack of his pants (jostling me more than a wee bit), then placing said hand on the armrest we shared.
It gets better, trust me.
As we were all trying to get to sleep, Grandpa decided that he wasn't comfortable, and decided to stretch out, attempting to do so by lifting both his feet over our shared armrest and literally trying to put them in my lap.
That did it for me. I grabbed his feet and tossed them back on his side of the armrest and said "this is my personal space, stay on your bloody side" Dad on the window then tried to scold me about being mean to his father and that his dad wasn't comfortable about flying. I replied to him that his father's disgusting behaviour was making me uncomfortable.
All of the above happened with nary a check-in by any FA, BTW.
Upon arrival in my hotel in Nurnberg about 8 hours later, I literally wanted to burn my clothes and bathe in bleach.
Last edited by Cale905; Jul 14, 2015 at 7:16 pm
#65
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YEG-YQR the other day. Its a 1h30min flight. Guy in 2A (2C is open), a 50-something overweight businessman, spends a good 20 minutes trimming his nails before landing in YQR. No attempt to even catch any of the remains.
The guy in 1A, the guy in 1D, the FA in the jumpseat, and I (2D) all gave him dirty looks. He didn't seem to notice and went about his business.
The saddest part- the plane is on a 30 minute turn around in YQR before the nearly 2 hour flight back to YEG. They usually start pre-boarding within 5 minutes of the last pax deplaning, so no time for cleaning. I feel bad for the poor pax that ended up sitting on this guy's nails, and the FA that probably had to try and clean up in YQR!
The guy in 1A, the guy in 1D, the FA in the jumpseat, and I (2D) all gave him dirty looks. He didn't seem to notice and went about his business.
The saddest part- the plane is on a 30 minute turn around in YQR before the nearly 2 hour flight back to YEG. They usually start pre-boarding within 5 minutes of the last pax deplaning, so no time for cleaning. I feel bad for the poor pax that ended up sitting on this guy's nails, and the FA that probably had to try and clean up in YQR!
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YEG-YQR the other day. Its a 1h30min flight. Guy in 2A (2C is open), a 50-something overweight businessman, spends a good 20 minutes trimming his nails before landing in YQR. No attempt to even catch any of the remains.
The guy in 1A, the guy in 1D, the FA in the jumpseat, and I (2D) all gave him dirty looks. He didn't seem to notice and went about his business.
The saddest part- the plane is on a 30 minute turn around in YQR before the nearly 2 hour flight back to YEG. They usually start pre-boarding within 5 minutes of the last pax deplaning, so no time for cleaning. I feel bad for the poor pax that ended up sitting on this guy's nails, and the FA that probably had to try and clean up in YQR!
The guy in 1A, the guy in 1D, the FA in the jumpseat, and I (2D) all gave him dirty looks. He didn't seem to notice and went about his business.
The saddest part- the plane is on a 30 minute turn around in YQR before the nearly 2 hour flight back to YEG. They usually start pre-boarding within 5 minutes of the last pax deplaning, so no time for cleaning. I feel bad for the poor pax that ended up sitting on this guy's nails, and the FA that probably had to try and clean up in YQR!
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This stuff pisses me off too. It really does.
BUT.
What law is that poorly behaving passenger breaking? And if he/she isn't, then what are the cabin staff to do? What grounds do they have to do something about it?
#68
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Worst for me was flying (think it was 876) to FRA last January. Family of 3 (adult daughter, father and grandfather) all in 18, with my boss and I sharing the aisle seats (G/J). The adult daughter was seated in F and elbowed my boss throughout the flight and sneezed on his leg (didn't use a tissue either). I have a smattering of Cantonese, and what my boss was saying about her wasn't nice
Dad was in 18K, and while he didn't didn't act gross, he did treat the FA's like serfs and was laughing like a castrated donkey at whatever he was watching on his IFE.
Grandpa was the best and, joy oh joy, he was beside me. Took off his sandals, and started cleaning his right big toe just before dinner to whet my appetite. I said "Seriously?" and was ignored. Dinner obviously didn't agree with his GI system and he was making no attempt to hide his efforts to break wind. Everyone recognizes the "One Cheek Sneak"...I sure did, since he (as Monty Python said) "F@rted in my general direction". It's very possible he may have "followed through" on one or several of his attempts to pass gas, and he decided to check this by rummaging his left hand quite thoroughly in the crack of his pants (jostling me more than a wee bit), then placing said hand on the armrest we shared.
It gets better, trust me.
As we were all trying to get to sleep, Grandpa decided that he wasn't comfortable, and decided to stretch out, attempting to do so by lifting both his feet over our shared armrest and literally trying to put them in my lap.
That did it for me. I grabbed his feet and tossed them back on his side of the armrest and said "this is my personal space, stay on your bloody side" Dad on the window then tried to scold me about being mean to his father and that his dad wasn't comfortable about flying. I replied to him that his father's disgusting behaviour was making me uncomfortable.
All of the above happened with nary a check-in by any FA, BTW.
Upon arrival in my hotel in Nurnberg about 8 hours later, I literally wanted to burn my clothes and bathe in bleach.
Dad was in 18K, and while he didn't didn't act gross, he did treat the FA's like serfs and was laughing like a castrated donkey at whatever he was watching on his IFE.
Grandpa was the best and, joy oh joy, he was beside me. Took off his sandals, and started cleaning his right big toe just before dinner to whet my appetite. I said "Seriously?" and was ignored. Dinner obviously didn't agree with his GI system and he was making no attempt to hide his efforts to break wind. Everyone recognizes the "One Cheek Sneak"...I sure did, since he (as Monty Python said) "F@rted in my general direction". It's very possible he may have "followed through" on one or several of his attempts to pass gas, and he decided to check this by rummaging his left hand quite thoroughly in the crack of his pants (jostling me more than a wee bit), then placing said hand on the armrest we shared.
It gets better, trust me.
As we were all trying to get to sleep, Grandpa decided that he wasn't comfortable, and decided to stretch out, attempting to do so by lifting both his feet over our shared armrest and literally trying to put them in my lap.
That did it for me. I grabbed his feet and tossed them back on his side of the armrest and said "this is my personal space, stay on your bloody side" Dad on the window then tried to scold me about being mean to his father and that his dad wasn't comfortable about flying. I replied to him that his father's disgusting behaviour was making me uncomfortable.
All of the above happened with nary a check-in by any FA, BTW.
Upon arrival in my hotel in Nurnberg about 8 hours later, I literally wanted to burn my clothes and bathe in bleach.
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I know this is contentious subject. 1F on my most recent flight 320. Big looking guy. Bare feet on bulkhead. It was gross.
1A same bare feet. But a young female with awesome legs who was wearing boy shorts. Ok maybe that I didn't mind nearly as much
Still unacceptable behavior to me though.
1A same bare feet. But a young female with awesome legs who was wearing boy shorts. Ok maybe that I didn't mind nearly as much
Still unacceptable behavior to me though.
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As we were all trying to get to sleep, Grandpa decided that he wasn't comfortable, and decided to stretch out, attempting to do so by lifting both his feet over our shared armrest and literally trying to put them in my lap.
That did it for me. I grabbed his feet and tossed them back on his side of the armrest and said "this is my personal space, stay on your bloody side" Dad on the window then tried to scold me about being mean to his father and that his dad wasn't comfortable about flying. I replied to him that his father's disgusting behaviour was making me uncomfortable.
That did it for me. I grabbed his feet and tossed them back on his side of the armrest and said "this is my personal space, stay on your bloody side" Dad on the window then tried to scold me about being mean to his father and that his dad wasn't comfortable about flying. I replied to him that his father's disgusting behaviour was making me uncomfortable.
I know this is contentious subject. 1F on my most recent flight 320. Big looking guy. Bare feet on bulkhead. It was gross.
1A same bare feet. But a young female with awesome legs who was wearing boy shorts. Ok maybe that I didn't mind nearly as much
Still unacceptable behavior to me though.
1A same bare feet. But a young female with awesome legs who was wearing boy shorts. Ok maybe that I didn't mind nearly as much
Still unacceptable behavior to me though.
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I have never understood feet on the wall in bulkhead seats. Just take down your rollaboard during flight and prop your feet on top of it. It is a much more comfortable height and no one cares if you have your feet (bare, socks, shoes, whatever) on top of your own bag.
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I have never understood feet on the wall in bulkhead seats. Just take down your rollaboard during flight and prop your feet on top of it. It is a much more comfortable height and no one cares if you have your feet (bare, socks, shoes, whatever) on top of your own bag.
Agreed and a great idea that many seem to not want to bother with.
I opted to say nothing to 2D who had his hand down his shorts. I was in 3C and happily moved to the 2 empty 4DF. Had a much better view of the scenery outside the window on my way to LAX.
I won't be so shy the next time.
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How, because you're sexually attracted to certain people, does that give them a free pass? Others are attracted to big hairy dudes, therefore these guys get a free pass as well? I bet I know your (and Penguin's) answer on this...
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Put your carry-on in front of you on the bulkhead aisle to prop ones ugly, callused, athlete's footed feet... then if turbulence hits and the seatbelt sign goes on... then what...
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Worst for me was flying (think it was 876) to FRA last January. Family of 3 (adult daughter, father and grandfather) all in 18, with my boss and I sharing the aisle seats (G/J). The adult daughter was seated in F and elbowed my boss throughout the flight and sneezed on his leg (didn't use a tissue either). I have a smattering of Cantonese, and what my boss was saying about her wasn't nice
Dad was in 18K, and while he didn't didn't act gross, he did treat the FA's like serfs and was laughing like a castrated donkey at whatever he was watching on his IFE.
Grandpa was the best and, joy oh joy, he was beside me. Took off his sandals, and started cleaning his right big toe just before dinner to whet my appetite. I said "Seriously?" and was ignored. Dinner obviously didn't agree with his GI system and he was making no attempt to hide his efforts to break wind. Everyone recognizes the "One Cheek Sneak"...I sure did, since he (as Monty Python said) "F@rted in my general direction". It's very possible he may have "followed through" on one or several of his attempts to pass gas, and he decided to check this by rummaging his left hand quite thoroughly in the crack of his pants (jostling me more than a wee bit), then placing said hand on the armrest we shared.
It gets better, trust me.
As we were all trying to get to sleep, Grandpa decided that he wasn't comfortable, and decided to stretch out, attempting to do so by lifting both his feet over our shared armrest and literally trying to put them in my lap.
That did it for me. I grabbed his feet and tossed them back on his side of the armrest and said "this is my personal space, stay on your bloody side" Dad on the window then tried to scold me about being mean to his father and that his dad wasn't comfortable about flying. I replied to him that his father's disgusting behaviour was making me uncomfortable.
All of the above happened with nary a check-in by any FA, BTW.
Upon arrival in my hotel in Nurnberg about 8 hours later, I literally wanted to burn my clothes and bathe in bleach.
Dad was in 18K, and while he didn't didn't act gross, he did treat the FA's like serfs and was laughing like a castrated donkey at whatever he was watching on his IFE.
Grandpa was the best and, joy oh joy, he was beside me. Took off his sandals, and started cleaning his right big toe just before dinner to whet my appetite. I said "Seriously?" and was ignored. Dinner obviously didn't agree with his GI system and he was making no attempt to hide his efforts to break wind. Everyone recognizes the "One Cheek Sneak"...I sure did, since he (as Monty Python said) "F@rted in my general direction". It's very possible he may have "followed through" on one or several of his attempts to pass gas, and he decided to check this by rummaging his left hand quite thoroughly in the crack of his pants (jostling me more than a wee bit), then placing said hand on the armrest we shared.
It gets better, trust me.
As we were all trying to get to sleep, Grandpa decided that he wasn't comfortable, and decided to stretch out, attempting to do so by lifting both his feet over our shared armrest and literally trying to put them in my lap.
That did it for me. I grabbed his feet and tossed them back on his side of the armrest and said "this is my personal space, stay on your bloody side" Dad on the window then tried to scold me about being mean to his father and that his dad wasn't comfortable about flying. I replied to him that his father's disgusting behaviour was making me uncomfortable.
All of the above happened with nary a check-in by any FA, BTW.
Upon arrival in my hotel in Nurnberg about 8 hours later, I literally wanted to burn my clothes and bathe in bleach.