Aeroplan distinction another scam
Dec 18, 2014, 9:02 am
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It's not a scam. Just not a good product. Ok, at best.
They really should have a filter for nonsensical marketfare redemptions that just make the program look stupid. Like, a gazillion points to get to wherever.
I booked two Y tickets YYZ-CUN for just over 40k points each. A small premium over classic fare, but still ~1.5c/mile redemption value. I'll take that, especially for a direct flight at peak time (first week of Jan). I booked about 6-8 months in advance. Just looked recently and market fare was over 70k.
As with all things Aeroplan, though, Distinction/Market Fare is probably useless for Joe Public. They've tried to bridge the "convenience" gap between them and Avion/Aventura and have failed for the most part.
They really should have a filter for nonsensical marketfare redemptions that just make the program look stupid. Like, a gazillion points to get to wherever.
I booked two Y tickets YYZ-CUN for just over 40k points each. A small premium over classic fare, but still ~1.5c/mile redemption value. I'll take that, especially for a direct flight at peak time (first week of Jan). I booked about 6-8 months in advance. Just looked recently and market fare was over 70k.
As with all things Aeroplan, though, Distinction/Market Fare is probably useless for Joe Public. They've tried to bridge the "convenience" gap between them and Avion/Aventura and have failed for the most part.
Dec 18, 2014, 10:07 am
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Dec 18, 2014, 11:31 am
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Never seen a market fare lower than a classic? Typically with the DD discount still about 20% more most of the time?
Any examples you can share? I'm curious to see...
Any examples you can share? I'm curious to see...
Dec 18, 2014, 11:53 am
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Market fares basically give you less than a penny on the point, and are loosely based on revenue pricing.
Look up YYZ-LHR for Feb.18-25
Classic is 60k+$705
Market fare is 29000 RT + $675
Revenue is $840
So basically you are saving $165 with your 29,000 points
So with distinction discounts - you could save 35%, and pay 19000 points + $675 to save $165 - getting you closer to a penny a point value.
Dec 18, 2014, 3:17 pm
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There are many examples where market fares are lower than classics.
Market fares basically give you less than a penny on the point, and are loosely based on revenue pricing.
Look up YYZ-LHR for Feb.18-25
Classic is 60k+$705
Market fare is 29000 RT + $675
Revenue is $840
So basically you are saving $165 with your 29,000 points
So with distinction discounts - you could save 35%, and pay 19000 points + $675 to save $165 - getting you closer to a penny a point value.
Market fares basically give you less than a penny on the point, and are loosely based on revenue pricing.
Look up YYZ-LHR for Feb.18-25
Classic is 60k+$705
Market fare is 29000 RT + $675
Revenue is $840
So basically you are saving $165 with your 29,000 points
So with distinction discounts - you could save 35%, and pay 19000 points + $675 to save $165 - getting you closer to a penny a point value.
Even the better market fare deal is 0.5 cents per mile.
Could you provide an example that is also a decent deal? (1.5 cents per mile or higher).
Dec 18, 2014, 3:21 pm
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Dec 19, 2014, 10:29 am
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Not sure that is right. On my YYZ-YHZ redemptions Market fare has always covered the YQ and the Nav Canada charges, whereas Classic requires you to pay them - generally this means it is an extra ~$50 out of pocket to use a Classic reward.
Dec 19, 2014, 12:04 pm
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Domestic revenue flights have no YQ
Dec 19, 2014, 12:26 pm
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This is just another case of Aeroplan trying to scam its members along with AC.
When I first was introduced to this program I was exited as I am sure many of you were when it posted 35% discounts with aeroplan. It would be natural to assume that.
same routing in market fare points 360 000 and take you discount of 35% for diamond distinction you are down to 235 000 points still 4 times as much.
When I first was introduced to this program I was exited as I am sure many of you were when it posted 35% discounts with aeroplan. It would be natural to assume that.
same routing in market fare points 360 000 and take you discount of 35% for diamond distinction you are down to 235 000 points still 4 times as much.
LOL ..... Classic post here.
I booked similar and agree it was INCREDIBLE value for non-stop flights in peak WX season. AP Distinction option blew DL and AA/US options out of the water ...
Dec 19, 2014, 3:17 pm
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Exactly. But the faux NAVCAN charge is indeed covered by market fare.
Look at my YYZ-LHR example in this thread. It was indeed $30 less on the 29,000 RT market fare, than the 60,000 classic award.
However, in either case, the points covered <$200 of the cost
Look at my YYZ-LHR example in this thread. It was indeed $30 less on the 29,000 RT market fare, than the 60,000 classic award.
However, in either case, the points covered <$200 of the cost
Dec 19, 2014, 3:34 pm
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