May 13, 2015, 1:53 am
Last edit by: Air Rarotonga
New M&B earning Table, effective (retroactively) as of 01/MAR/2015:
(new earing table was published on m&b site on 12/MAY/2015).
Old M&B earning table, fective as of 01/FEB/2013 up to 28/FEB/2015:
Code:
First F, A ...................... 150% Business J, C, D, Z, P ............. 100% Economy Y, B ...................... 100% M, E, U, H, Q ............. 100% V .......................... 75% W, S, T, L, K, G, N ........ 50% Note Miles cannot be earned in booking classes: O, I, X, R -> No more minimum miles for all booking casses!
Old M&B earning table, fective as of 01/FEB/2013 up to 28/FEB/2015:
Code:
First F, A ...................... 300% / 1500 (minimum miles) Business J, C, D, Z ................ 200% / 1000 (minimum miles) Economy Y ......................... 150% / 750 (minimum miles) B, M, E, U, H, Q, V ....... 100% / 500 (minimum miles) W, S, T, L, K, G ........... 50% / 500 (minimum miles) Note Miles cannot be earned in booking classes: O, I, X, R, N, P
how likely a change in earnings on UA fares [confirmed 12th May 2015, backdated Mar]
May 13, 2015, 2:05 am
#16
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Absolutely - not so much the LX one, which at least had some notice (2 weeks is looking like a bonus), but SQ and UA have been retroactively applied. I would assume anyone flying over the last six weeks or so was probably credited according to the old table, but frankly this smacks of a shambles at the very heart of M&B. Earning is a central core of any FFP, and to totally mis-manage how that works - not just once, but certainly twice and maybe three times - discredits the entire airline.
Trust, as pewpew very sufficiently puts it, is very quickly being eroded. I wouldn't remotely blame anyone for looking for other places to credit right now.
Trust, as pewpew very sufficiently puts it, is very quickly being eroded. I wouldn't remotely blame anyone for looking for other places to credit right now.
May 13, 2015, 9:33 am
#17
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My guess is that UA send the instructions to OZ,TK, A3 for the changes for March, but A3 was the last one to update its system...IT might be a little slower,
they still have enough work with the new program and website.
Buying miles was promised for February and is still not available...
they still have enough work with the new program and website.
Buying miles was promised for February and is still not available...
May 13, 2015, 12:21 pm
#18
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Any change in earnings in a*A program should now be taken as an indicator A3 will follow, possibly retrospectively. I touched on this possibility above, but from now it must be considered in all cases. We now need to watch other programs to know what will happen with miles in M&B. Indeed very badly handled
May 13, 2015, 1:06 pm
#19
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My guess is that UA send the instructions to OZ,TK, A3 for the changes for March, but A3 was the last one to update its system...IT might be a little slower,
they still have enough work with the new program and website.
Buying miles was promised for February and is still not available...
they still have enough work with the new program and website.
Buying miles was promised for February and is still not available...
May 14, 2015, 11:53 am
#21
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For me the removal of UA's 500 mile minimums only really affects me inasmuch as it takes away a last-ditch requalifying option of mine (should I ever need it) which is a quick multi-segment hop to the US ex-YYZ.
May 14, 2015, 8:24 pm
#23
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Not so keen on the changes for Biz, but then I try to stay away from UA anyways so won't be affected much. What I don't like is the retro-active part starting March 1. If they were behind on implementing the change at least announce it so people can make a choice. Going backwards is a big nono to me. YMMV
May 14, 2015, 8:27 pm
#24
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Not so keen on the changes for Biz, but then I try to stay away from UA anyways so won't be affected much. What I don't like is the retro-active part starting March 1. If they were behind on implementing the change at least announce it so people can make a choice. Going backwards is a big nono to me. YMMV
May 14, 2015, 8:43 pm
#25
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Did they go back and change mileage earnings for people who's miles already posted? I don't know since I've only flown K fares since March 1st, but miles posted in a few days, so presumably for 2 months, miles posted at the old levels and could have been redeemed and/or upgraded status by now.
May 14, 2015, 10:25 pm
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Did they go back and change mileage earnings for people who's miles already posted? I don't know since I've only flown K fares since March 1st, but miles posted in a few days, so presumably for 2 months, miles posted at the old levels and could have been redeemed and/or upgraded status by now.
May 14, 2015, 11:53 pm
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Presumably they should now be looking at anything flown in P or N for retroclaim though ...
May 18, 2015, 6:45 am
#28
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Folks, there were a number of posts which discussed the reasons behind this devaluation which merited a thread of their own in order to keep this thread on UA earnings on-topic.
They have been split off into a new thread here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegea...locations.html
NWIFlyer
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Aegean M&B
They have been split off into a new thread here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegea...locations.html
NWIFlyer
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Aegean M&B
May 19, 2015, 1:24 pm
#29
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Well, this was certainly a shock to see.
The best part of this was that I was able to get 500 mile minimums. For someone who flys primarily in economy,this was a nice way to accumulate some miles, being most of my flights were <200 miles.
In terms of strategy right now, I'm at a complete loss.
The best part of this was that I was able to get 500 mile minimums. For someone who flys primarily in economy,this was a nice way to accumulate some miles, being most of my flights were <200 miles.
In terms of strategy right now, I'm at a complete loss.