Sorry - should be PISA but still an amazing fare!

Go to Travelocity use dream maps ex Sydney and look at trips to Europe

- Can this be booked?

This could be the bargain of the year!

cheers Peter

[This message has been edited by ffhound (edited 03-18-2001).]

Despite my best efforts I have had no luck booking this fare.

Using Dream maps gives three China Airlines options. 2 give error messages. The other however links you to a dep[arture date selection and shows September to November however as the fare must depart in March it seems impossible to book.

Perhaps the fare can be booked through another booking engine. United perhaps?

cheers Peter

Thanks for call Peter. Yes, you are 100% right the $60 round trip OZ-Europe (Pisa AND Naples!) is showing all right, but like you I can't get it to accept a booking. I'll keep trying and thanks for the fast tip-off.

Given Uniteds boo boo with the $27 fares to Paris that they honoured, this one might be worth keen FT'ers trying for when you all wake up. It may work on other search engines other than Travelocity?

OK, you may not want to, or be able to, fly from SYD. But Gee, United "bought off" many of our FT colleagues with $US600 or whatever type "bribes" NOT to fly, so you never know your luck.

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To recap ... go to www.travelocity.com and click at lower left on "DREAM MAPS" Link. Then change default at RH side from Dallas to SYD, leave the $300 alone, and up top click on "Western Europe" above the colour map. Then when Pisa and Naples come up at $60 click on either. Click on the CENTRAL of the three pink China Airlines Orchids - other 2 have error messages when I've tried. Fares rules make it seems like a legit route - OZ-Rome then a Naples add-on. 4 x it'l transfers permitted.

Says the ONLY dates this fare is valid is departing SYD between March 25 and March 31, minimum 10 day stay in case any FT fare hounds want to punch in dates and carrier on other search sites and hope there is a system weakness for that combination. Good luck! Next best price is about $US1000 higher!

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[This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 03-18-2001).]

I doubt the fare could be booked as last travel is 31Mar, first is 25Mar, with 10 days minimum. ooops, 25Mar+10 > 31Mar!



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Not correct

THE FIRST DATE THAT TRAVEL MAY COMMENCE IS 25MAR01 AND THE LAST DATE IS 31MAR01.

This means that date of travel must commence between 25 March and 31 March. It does not mean that travel must be completed by then.

Minimum length of stay is 10 days and maximum is 12 months.

Mind you I'm not all that keen on the idea of flying with China Airlines



cheers Peter

I tried to book it, but only gave me November and September departure dates - which are not valid.

It seems to be a problem thry Sabre.... anyone know a travel agent - maybe they have access to it?

Cheers

Aaron

I just checked for the fare in SABRE, it is not listed. My guess is that Travelocity misloaded a private fare. If it was a public fare in SABRE I would have been able to get it. It also does not show up with a historical fare quote (look at past fares). Did anybody get a fare basis? I can look it up that way.

I spent about three hours trying to book it this morning... including a very long conversation with Travelocity customer Service. It's not a published fare. CI portion has to be booked in T class. This COS is virtually zeroed out on all days. Departure by Mar 31. Minimum stay looks like 10 days.

Going to require six booking segments, and I can't figure a way to book this many thru travelocity. There only appears to be room for five.

I have a way of looking at "acutal inventory on CI." Just need a way to book six segs thru Travelocity.

Any suggestions?

It looks like the fare basis is either TKEE, THEE or TJEE.

tvl4free,

Can you show an example of the 6 segments which may qualify the $60 fare?

Here was my approach:

As mentioned, two of the $ 60.00 fares, when the rules are pulled up - showed expired, but one did not. I copied the rules of that fare, and as always is the case with Travelocity, they are incomplete. As you may know, this is not a published fare. So would CI grant mileage credit? It looks like the CI portion has to be booked in T and the AZ portion has to be booked in L (but I am not completely sure).

Then I tried to book on Travelocity, but I could not get in all the required segments - one by one. So then I tried shoving in two segments into one of the spaces (ie. SYD-FCO instead of SYD-TPE - requesting the CI carrier option) to see if that would work, because I've found that it sometimes works with other online booking engines, like UAL.com). But that didn't work with Travelocity either.

The unexpired fare basis is TJEE if I recall correctly. In any case, all of the $ 60.00 fares started with T. T class is fully booked up on the two remaining dates that CI flies between SYD and TPE (28 MAR and 31MAR) using the "normal availability" that comes up. So then I went directly into CI computer and found two seats in T on 31MAR SYD-TPE. Since this has to be booked and tkt'd thru Travelocity, I went back to Travelocity and booked as much of the record as I could and placed it on hold (to create a record) . Then I called Travelocity directly and spent about about an hour and a half talking to them and had an agent book the rest of the itinerary . (Unfortunately, the Travelocity agents are virtually useless, unless something will price automatically, which this wouldn't because the one TPE-FCO seg wasn't booked in the right COS). What I had booked with the web wound up in T class to TPE and then Y class to FCO. Travelocity would not "wait list" the TPE-FCO portion in T. So, I called CI and they were glad to waitlist the FCO-TPE portion in T. They sent a msg to TPE... and I should hear back from them within 48 hours.

This is further complicated by that fact that the flights from SYD to FCO don't connect the same day in TPE... at least not on the dates that I checked. This would require more than a twenty-four hour layover. I'm not sure that this would be allowed based on Travelocity's incomplete rules.

Here's the bottom line: There is no more T class out of SYD to TPE this month, but I do have two seats booked in T on the 31MAR SYD-TPE. If the TPE-FCO clear from Y to T (2APR) anybody is welcome to them. If it does then this MAY work. Also, I am not absolutely sure that the SYD-TPE portion must be taken on CI. If another carrier could be used, then more options would be available. Travelocity agents are not trained well enough to tell me. Maybe I can go directly to the SABRE help desk since Travelocity is actually SABRE...hummm.

Suggestion: Try looking at the DreamMap out of other Ozzie cities to which CI does not fly to see if similar fares exists. If so, the fare may allow travel via another carrier other than CI to TPE which has better availability. I would suggest trying the northern cities first. I have a feeling that there may be something similar... based on a few "clues" posted on Travelocity. Maybe yes, maybe no. Let me know.

Here is a sample itinerary nan358:

CI 52T 31MAR SYDTPE 1000P 520A +1
CI 67T 2APR TPEFCO 850P 810A +1
AZ 1265T 3APR FCONAP 1115A 1205P
AZ 1262T 14APR NAPFCO 655A 745A
CI 681T 14APR FCOTPE 1205P 1035A +1
CI 51T 15APR TPESYD 1030P 930A +1

Whether or not this would actually be honored once the segments cleared, is another story to be dealt with later.


Update: Travelocity states booking class for entire itinerary must be booked in T COS.



[This message has been edited by tvl4free (edited 03-19-2001).]

Waitlist cleared. Travelocity refuses to tkt stating "there is no such fare in SABRE."

They also refuse to admit that maybe there's a mistake in Travelocity's programming, stating, "This information comes directly from China Air."

We may have another "Crazy Fare" here! Let's call it the "Italian Holiday Fare".

Anybody want to pursue this further with China Air?

Thanks for details. It is very interesting.
And I'm sorry they didn't ticket it.

You are not going to believe this, I tried entering Adelaide as the departure city, and it comes with US$.00 to London, Frankfurt, Rome or Paris with Ansett or Singapore. When you click on the select button it just shows an error though. Surely flying for nothing is better than US$60!

I doubt it is bookable though. But nevertheless interesting...... London sounds nice.....