http://www.aircanada.ca/oneway/

Some of these are booked in some new booking classes.

"Freedom" fare is the new one way Economy class full fare. You will get MLL access if you purchase one of these fares and 125% Q miles as well. [Sorry Fermat, I was wrong in my initial post about this being a J fare]

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what new about a J class one-way fare? You've always been able to buy a one-way Y or J fare if you wanted to shell out the whopping big bucks for the ticket.

Unless the fare price on a J/Y has come down substantially...

I also noticed that there's no mention of an executive class seat on the plane. Does this spell the end of business cabins in Canada?

I am curious as how AC would price its "Fun" fares vs. its "Econo" fares.

"Fun" fares are like WestJet's fares. But almost all of WestJet's fares are one-way only.

What kind of price difference is needed for someone to buy an "Econo" fare (with a $75 change fee) vs. two "Fun" fares (with a $25 change fee). One can change the "Fun" fares three times before matching an "Econo" change fee.

And I also wonder what the standby policies would be for these fare types.

No. What do you mean no mention of an executive class seat?

ECONO - No.
FLASH - No.
FREEDOM - Yes (free MLL access as well)
FUN - No.
LATITUDE - Yes.

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FYI -

Fun fare is booked in 'R', 'I', 'G', 'E'.
Latitude fare is booked in 'U'.
Freedom fare is booked in 'Y'.

Keithguy - as for the difference between Fun and Econo fare, not much. Econo fares are pretty much combo of one ways fares.

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Freedom
� Priority check-in, boarding and baggage handling
� Access to Maple Leaf TM Lounges
� Purchase anytime
� Make unlimited changes at no cost
� Fully refundable
� 125% Aeroplan Status Miles

Sounds just like a J ticket except there;s no mention of an executive seat for the fare. You'd think that they would at least mention something as "minor" as a seat improvement over standard Y...

Fermat - actually that's a economy class fare. It's booked in 'Y' booking class. [Made a mistake in my initial post calling this a J fare, sorry for confusing you]

So the price difference between the Latitude and Freedom fare gets you MLL access and 25% extra Q miles.

Here are some sample fares (pre-tax):

[The 'fun' and 'Econo' fares are the starting fares and will be higher as lower fare classes are sold out and/or you buy them close to departure date.]

Toronto/Vancouver:

One way 'Fun' fare: $264
One way 'Latitude' fare: $744
One way 'Freedom' fare: $949
Return 'Econo' fare: $516 (Based on $258 each way)

Toronto/Montreal:

One way 'Fun' fare: $104
One way 'Latitude' fare: $235
One way 'Freedom' fare: $369
Return 'Econo' fare: $202 (Based on $101 each way)

Vancouver/Calgary:

One way 'Fun' fare: $69
One way 'Latitude' fare: $239
One way 'Freedom' fare: $272
Return 'Econo' fare: $180 (Based on $90 each way)

Toronto/Calgary:

One way 'Fun' fare: $129
One way 'Latitude' fare: $629
One way 'Freedom' fare: $949
Return 'Econo' fare: $418 (Based on $209 each way)

Toronto/Edmonton:

One way 'Fun' fare: $209
One way 'Latitude' fare: $629
One way 'Freedom' fare: $949
Return 'Econo' fare: $418 (Based on $209 each way)

Edmonton/Calgary:

One way 'Fun' fare: $59
One way 'Latitude' fare: $223
One way 'Freedom' fare: $253
Return 'Econo' fare: $136 (Based on $68 each way)

Toronto/Winnipeg:

One way 'Fun' fare: $133
One way 'Latitude' fare: $610
One way 'Freedom' fare: $901
Return 'Econo' fare: $268 (Based on $134 each way)

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Gee, some of those fares seem fairly weird..

On another note, what happens to people who already have tickets booked under the old fare classes/booking classes?

For example, I have a ticket booked in L class (fare basis: LLECONO) which carries with it a $145 change fee. I presume the rules applicable to my ticket will still apply, but if I want to make a change, which booking class would I have access to with my L ticket? (if I want to rebook in a manner avoiding a change fee)

You will still be governed by the LLECONO fare rules. If you make a change, you will still be looking for seats in the 'L' inventory.

These fares do seem a bit weird.
For example an H Class seat between YYZ/YYC is now around $800 and there is no comparable fare on your list except "econo" which would appear to have no U/G or lounge access.Is that correct?

Is this in addition to the new B3XC, V7C, H7C fares? or a replacement?

If the latter, then there will be a lot of confusion for a while.

If the former, then they will be making a complicated system even more complicated.

Fun fare is booked in 'R', 'I', 'G', 'E'.
Latitude fare is booked in 'U'.
Freedom fare is booked in 'Y'.

I thought they were harmonizing fares with Star Alliance--not one of the new ones seems to do that (since Y is already Y in AC and Star systems).

And which fare classes are now upgradeable?

So, once the latest seat sale is over, will L and N fares disappear forever on domestic routes? Are Qs a thing of the past? Let's say I buy a Fun return, can I pay the change fee and upgrade to an H-fare for upgrade purposes? If indeed AC will be offering domestic J/C anymore. Maybe full Y/Freedom gets to sit in the front cabin and it replaces J on such routes? Hence no mention of J and access to MLLs plus the 125% mileage.